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O/T temp grazing-hay

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BigMarv1085

06-23-2006 10:00:14




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We were talking the other day about crops to plant for temp. grazing and possibly haying. One that seems a little promising was pearl millet. It doesn't take alot of rain but we didn't now if you could graze it if it was grazed in a drought. I was told that it can give nitrate poisoning if it sets there too long waiting for rain. Does anyone know? Next was buckwheat, I know that the seeds make good feed but can it be baled and how does it do in a drought?

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Glen in TX

06-23-2006 21:37:39




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 Re: O/T temp grazing-hay in reply to BigMarv1085, 06-23-2006 10:00:14  
I asked some others around here today about that and they said millet or hegari would take stress better before nitrates became a problem.



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RM in Va.

06-23-2006 13:19:00




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 Re: O/T temp grazing-hay in reply to BigMarv1085, 06-23-2006 10:00:14  
Any jointed grass can cause nitrate poisoning. Like many mentioned in the other post. I've seen cows die from eating Johnson grass. If the grass gets stressed it's a problem.

If you're getting some rain you may want to look at Red River Crabgrass. I've used it for 5 years and it makes good grazing and hay. I have a bag of seed here now but it hasn't rained enough in the last 4 weeks to grow anything. I might as well keep the seed in the bag until it rains some.

Today any hay field or pasture on this place will burn. Driest spring anyone around here has ever seen. Cows walk to the waterer and there's a big dust trail behind them. Hope that changes this weekend.

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Glen in TX

06-23-2006 10:27:10




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 Re: O/T temp grazing-hay in reply to BigMarv1085, 06-23-2006 10:00:14  
Yes, want to be careful on nitrate poisoning levels for stressed milo, sorghum-sudan cross haygrazers, hegari (hi-gear), millets and silage sorghums. Not sure if millets are as bad about holding nitrates as the others?? I'm not remembering what the acceptable levels are now right off hand but you need to take some samples to a test lab before grazing or haying it especially in a droughty condition. They should be able to advise you on safe levels. Do more than one spot sample from each field as it can vary a lot too. I've seen some cut and bale milo or sorghum grazers stressed out after a freeze even but nitrate levels were way too high before the freeze and later in winter the hay killed cattle. You also need to be able to fence cattle off of it when a freeze hits for 2 weeks or more till it drys down and nitrate levels go back down. We had bad nitrate problems a few years ago and some found out after spending the money to bale it nitrates were too high and not wanting to chance others cattle getting in the hay before or if levels went down they had to burn the hay to destroy it. Buckwheat isn't grown here so I don't know. County extension agent and local animal nutritionist in your county should be able to provide help also.

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Aowner

06-23-2006 10:06:54




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 Re: O/T temp grazing-hay in reply to BigMarv1085, 06-23-2006 10:00:14  
I was watching the weather on a satelite/radar map and it looked like you were getting alot of rain headed your way last night but when it crossed the Ga.-Ala. state line it disappeared. You have had some bad luck this year with the drought and surgery. Did you get any rain and hows your shoulder?



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BigMarv1085

06-23-2006 10:14:11




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 Re: O/T temp grazing-hay in reply to Aowner, 06-23-2006 10:06:54  
I was coming home from night shift and right as I was coming onto the dirt road, you could see the the road was wet with standing water and the dirt road was wet to my driveway. My neighbor had wet the road with his water trailer to keep the dust down while his front porch was being painted. I was disappointed. Still have some pain in the shoulder but I'm able to lift 50lbs of feed. Doc says 6-9 more months.

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