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David in Englan

06-22-2006 01:57:31

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Hi Guys;
This is the last model tractor that Allis built & sold in England in the 1960's. Design based on the US style D series - ED40 = English D 40HP.
Fitted with Standard Motors 4 cylinder indirect injection 40HP diesel. 4F & 1R with hi & lo. Live huydraulics & PTO. Quite a big build compared to engine HP, high clearance for use with mid mounted hoes.
They were not a commercial success in general sales, most used on root crop & vegetable farms in eastern side of Country.
Allis's factory here then went on to building their very good ranges of Gleaner combines, small square balers & tedders, & grain drills.
Cheers David

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Rob WIS

01-27-2007 14:32:32

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to David in England, 06-22-2006 01:57:31

I have an ed40 and would like to purchase a
service manuel for it if anyone has one for sale
or if they could make a copy,I would be interested in buying it.

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Mike M

06-22-2006 04:33:49

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to David in England, 06-22-2006 01:57:31

I know a fellow here in Ohio has one that needs some engine work. Can't find any parts around I guess ? Do you know of a source of engine parts ?

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jdemaris

06-22-2006 09:19:17

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Parts for Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to Mike M, 06-22-2006 04:33:49

There used to be quite a few ED40s in my area of central New York. I had two and knew of a dozen others in my area. Great little tractors - only persistent problem I had with them was the hand-clutch slipping. I drilled mine and bolted them together. I got rid of my last one a few years ago when it needed a engine rebuild. At the time, I could not find any parts, not even a head gasket. Now - there's a place advertising that it has ALL the parts. If true, I wish I'd kept my ED40s. Website is at: Link

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Mike M

06-22-2006 09:40:19

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Re: Parts for Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to jdemaris, 06-22-2006 09:19:17

I'll pass their number along. Thanks ! Looks like everything one would need to get it fixed back up again.

I wonder how much one would be worth in good shape just worn out engine that has been pulled out,but I don't think it was torn apart yet ? Verses how much a running one is worth ?

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jdemaris

06-22-2006 11:00:51

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Re: Parts for Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to Mike M, 06-22-2006 09:40:19

There are a lot of variables when it comes to prices that have little to do with condition. I've passed up several ED40s the past few years with prices ranging from $500 to $1000. The last one I owned developed a rod knock. I never pulled it apart to find out for sure since I couldn't find any parts at the time. At least, as it was, it was a running tractor. I sold it for $800. Shortly after, I bought an IH B-275 - another British powered tractor. Paid $500 and it had water in the engine oil. But, parts were, and still are easy to get - even on this website. The B-275 is very close in size, power, handling, and design to the AC ED40 except it does not have a hand-clutch for the PTO - it uses a two stage foot clutch instead. The B-275 uses a British/Indian 144 cubic inch engine whereas the AC ED-40 uses a Standard - Ricardo 138 cubic inch engine (it was also used in British taxi cabs). Massey Ferguson had a tractor that had the same engine as the AC ED-40. There is one close to me right now, for sale - at an auction house. It's a 1959 or 1960 Massey Ferguson TO-35 with the Standard 23C diesel motor. I tried to buy it last week - offering the guy $800, but he did not take me up on my offer.

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Larry from md

06-22-2006 14:47:56

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Re: Parts for Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to jdemaris, 06-22-2006 11:00:51

I still have one and it runs.I don't use it much,only when other things break down.Compared to my oliver s55 Its very easy on fuel,but low on power and no independant pto.I have seen them sell for 1900 and 350.One guy called me and wanted all my good parts of my tractor to fix his junker.He sold his to a guy in england.

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jdemaris

06-23-2006 06:23:32

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Re: Parts for Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to Larry from md, 06-22-2006 14:47:56

By strict definition, the ED40 does not have an independent PTO, but it does have a live PTO. Back in the late 60s, I encountered quite a few that were accused of having bad engine clutches, when in fact the issue was the live-PTO hand operated clutch that was making the wheel-drive slip. That is how I got my first one. My neighbor-farmer friend basically "cut his nose to spite his face." He bought two ED40s new back in the early 60s. He loved the tractors - until . . . They both started "slipping" at around the same time - and both acting as if they needed new engine clutches. He brought one to the local AC dealer for repair. They ordered, and then installed a brand new engine clutch assembly. He got the tractor home - tried to use it - and it would not even climb a steep hill in any gear other than low - i.e. it was still slipping. So - he refused the pay the labor charge on his bill but did pay for the parts. He then - got mad at the tractors in addition to the dealer - and parked them in a shed for 15 years - vowing never to spend another penny on them. At some time in the mid-80s - I did some work for him - rebuilt the engine in one of his Deere 4020s and fixed the winch on his Deere 350 dozer. He paid me, but as a bonus - he gave me both the ED-40 tractors. After 15 years of storage - one started right up with fresh fuel and a battery - but the other would not pump any fuel (CAV injection pump). The one that DID start was the one the dealer had "fixed" years before. I got it home, figured out at some point the real problem was the little live PTO clutch - drilled holes through it and bolted it together. After that, the tractor worked great for years. One note about fuel ecomony. The farmer who had bought the ED40s new raved about how good they were on fuel. He said they used half the fuel his Deere 4020s did for blower work. It may have been close to true. The 4020s are fairly efficient at the higher end of their horsepower range, but when used for jobs only needing 20 or 30 horse, they are fuel hogs. I suspect that's why the ED40s were so much better on the blower.

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Rob NC

06-22-2006 03:35:24

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to David in England, 06-22-2006 01:57:31

david,there was a few of those ED-40s' sent to the states. our dealer back then had one and it sat on the yard for a long time, nobody would touch it. after a couple of years with faded paint it disappeared,i have no idea where it went. i am sure nothing was wrong with tractor,the transmissions no doubt had to be better than the D series.maybe the tractor was ahead of its time in this area cause of the diesel engine. 99% of small tractors here were gassers.

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Roy in UK

06-22-2006 02:32:37

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to David in England, 06-22-2006 01:57:31

"Small square balers" We had an AC 300 baler ( very well made, much better built than the New Hollands of the time, but a bit slow compared to the Claas we had) But were they made at Essendine? we found out it was actually a Jones baler painted orange.

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David in England

06-22-2006 08:28:15

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to Roy in UK, 06-22-2006 02:32:37

Mornin all

There are NO spares for Allis stuff in England, I have been told that it was all shipped to Europe years ago, and was desrtoyed !!!

Only chance of spares for most machines is another one with the bits you need.

Allis bought out JONES BALERS from Mold in North Wales who had been manfuacturing high quality grass machinery for many years. Some of the later AC painted & decalled balers were actually Jones manufactured.

Then Bamfords & F H Burgess (dealers) bought the remaining stock of balers & spares. Later this was all sold to the Benson Group in Knighton mid-Wales who made the very last big round balers.
That was the end of the Allis & Jones farm machinery for England.

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daniel abbott

08-17-2006 09:41:15

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Re: PHOTO - English Allis Chalmers ED40 tractor in reply to David in England, 06-22-2006 08:28:15

hi hope u can help i am having a stand at the National Tractor Show at the East of England Showground Peterborough on the 4/5th November 2006.I wondered if you would like to exhibit your ED40 and also if you had any information on the Allis Chalmers built at Essendine near Stamford that i could display on notice boards at the show? I am trying to get as many British built Allis' to exhibit at the show as possible.
Daniel Abbott.

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