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hillbillyOH

06-06-2006 03:44:16




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Between the Russian Olive and the Red Cedar, I'm having a heck of a time keeping my trails and pastures clear. I cleared a bunch of RO yesterday, but I'm wondering if it will be coming back? Is it a tree or a bush?

When a cedar is cut down to the ground, that's it -- it's dead, and it ain't coming back. I'm afraid the RO will just think of my work as "pruning." Will I need to spray the stumps?

Russian Olive is an evil, nasty bit of vegetation.

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2t2@IA

06-06-2006 20:15:09




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
When we are cutting small numbers of pesty trees, we put Tordon RTU immediately on the stump and that seems to stop any future growth.



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730virgil

06-06-2006 18:25:37




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
i have a problem with musk thistle in pasture , my grandpa used to cut bull thistles and pour hand full of table salt on roots . i am wondering if this will be effective with musk thistle ? i don't want to use 2,4-d and roundup as i have a good stand of red clover is between my knees and waist i'm trying to find someone to cut and bale on halves



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Dan in Ore

06-06-2006 09:09:42




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
Several years ago we had a patch of Canada Thistle in one of our fields. I asked a fellow that I knew whose job it was to spray noxious weeds how to get rid of the thistle. He told me "move and don't leave a forwarding address".



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Tim B from MA

06-06-2006 09:04:15




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
Echoing below,

The most effective time to use Roundup (glyphosate) on trees and shrubs is in the fall, just before, or as the leaves are turning. At that time all the chlorophyl and other nutrients in the leaves are breaking down and being translocated to the roots for winter storage. With all the movement from the stem to the roots, more of the glyphosate makes it to the roots. I use it on poisson ivy in September (Massachusetts) and it kills 99 percent every time.

I would cut the russian olive early-mid summer so the growth is low (to make it easier to spray) but robust when fall comes around. Then spray with Roundup or other glyphosate product that also contains surfacants (makes the herbicides stick to the leafs better) at the highest recommeded concentration.

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Tim Shultz

06-06-2006 04:31:37




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
about the best thing to do is go to the sale barn and get you a few $40 goats.. they WILL get rid of them for you.. have them all over the place here, but NONE where the goats can get to.. just my .02
Tim



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JD9295

06-06-2006 04:29:38




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
The RO will come back. They are almost impossible to completely stop. Keeping them mowed down will help but youll still have a stragler here and there. Spraying will help. Ive not noticed if spraying before or after cutting is any better, just get ready for a big fight



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Don L C

06-06-2006 06:02:56




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to JD9295, 06-06-2006 04:29:38  
After you have mowed them off....wait until you see new growth....then spot spray them with Round Up..... that should get them.....



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nballen

06-06-2006 06:58:27




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to Don L C, 06-06-2006 06:02:56  
Yes, Roundup (Glyphosate) will knock it back.

I cut down a Russian Olive last year, sprayed a couple times with a combination of Roundup and Mecamine-D (a 2,4-D family product), both near full strength (per mixing instructions). I had shoots about 18" high and I soaked the foliage, top and bottom surfaces of the leaves. I just noticed a singk=le shoot last night (about 4" tall) that I will have to spray, but its about time to declare victory!

The 2,4-D family herbicides have a systemic action that typically does a better job of getting the roots of broadleaf plants (besides not harming your grass).

HTH,

Nathaniel

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Rob NC

06-06-2006 04:07:06




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to hillbillyOH, 06-06-2006 03:44:16  
I don't know about the ro, but i have killed tree stumps by drilling holes in the top side of them and pouring in table salt. this will also cause them to rot out very fast.



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cj3b_jeep

06-06-2006 05:51:50




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 Re: OT: Russian Olive in reply to Rob NC, 06-06-2006 04:07:06  
I was told by a PhD. in biology that the best thing to do after you cut them down is to drill a hole in the stump and fill it with a concoction of diesel fuel and roundup. After you cut or burn either a russian olive or autumn olive, they come back with a vengance.



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