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Look Mom! No Hands!

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in-too-deep

05-25-2006 13:16:30




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I've been spoiled. I've been working for a big farmer for a couple years now, and this year they decided to let me plant beans. Well, the tractor is an MX255 (I ran it on the grain cart for two falls) pulling a Kinze 16 Row Interplant. (Actually 32 15 inch rows.) They're trying out the John Deere Auto-Steer system on this rig. All I can say is, that thing is really cool!! Go into any field, get a straight line set up, and away you go. It beeps when you gets to the end 'cause it remembers where you turned around last. Just grab the wheel, make the turn, and when you get pointed back in the general direction of the row, engage the steering and it takes you back on the row. Slick as a whistle. I still use the markers just to be sure, but otherwise I can just sit there, talk on my cellphone, or eat a sandwich. Yes, I feel guilty being so lazy, but it's quite an experience to use that technology. Being my first time planting, I have learned how to drive manually with the markers, so don't give up on me just yet ; ) Anyone else had experience with this?

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Burnie

05-26-2006 00:08:02




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to in-too-deep, 05-25-2006 13:16:30  
We've been running a JD8320 with auto steer for about 4 years. It's a great system and has had several updates which has improved accuracy and types of information that can be stored. The system allows you to use the same wheel tracks every time you work a field, so your compaction is localised. The reduced stress on the operator is another big plus, espcially when furrowing up and inter-row culivating. I get off an auto steer tractor a lot fresher after a 12hr shift! We also have 2 spray rigs with manual guidance and I would love to go auto with them as well. With so much technology involved and with productivity so important, good operators will be in demand for a long time yet. I would be very suprised if I saw a true all purpose driver-less tractor in my life time. No matter how many computers, monitors and things that go beep there are in the cab at planting time, one thing will never change: fathers and sons will always kneel on the earth, take out their pocket knives and dig down into the soil, just to make sure those seeds are placed just right. And get a little dirt on their hands in the process.

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GROWLER36

05-25-2006 17:35:28




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to in-too-deep, 05-25-2006 13:16:30  
Maybe it"s just me but one of the joys of farming is being able to climb on the tractor and spend some time doing a good job working a field. I would hate sitting in an office. Of course my farming is more of a hobby and I can see where it"d be handy for the commercial guys. I"ll stick to my canopy covered tractor and 20ft disk any ole time.
Still eatin" dirt!



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Similarly

05-25-2006 14:47:01




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to in-too-deep, 05-25-2006 13:16:30  
Near here last fall I observed arrow straight deep tillage, narrow slits and a tank wagon pulled behind the subsoiler. The straight rows were a give-a-way that auto steer was in use. I talked with the driver- someone I know- and teased him about his driving. I was REALLY impressed this spring when I saw the planter planted corn precisely on those narrow tilled strips. Again talking with the driver he said the auto steer is accurate within an inch.

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nw_bearcat

05-25-2006 14:39:36




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to in-too-deep, 05-25-2006 13:16:30  
I'm surprised they're using a JD system on a red tractor. the JD system has not played well w/ other brands historically.

Precision ag is a neat deal...there's a guy in NE iowa who has his whole farm networked. he was an engineer by trade that came back to farm. now he has it set up so he can be "running" a ripper, and be on the internet ordering parts, and shifting grain from the dryer bin to a storage bin. he's all auto guidance, and controlled traffic, there's one set of tracks for each 12rows? i think. everything is strip till, and he's now working things so he'll plant like 32 rows of corn, skip 32, plant 32 across a field, then come back later to do the beans. he say's the yield advantage is there, but i'm not so sure on that one.

with all of this, i don't think we'll get farming to be a computer driven project. there are too many variables that computers can't follow. how do you program your auto guidance to plant the south hill of the back 40 if that sidehill seep is dry enough, and if its not, plant up to it then skip over and come back on Thursday to finish? they won't replace the farmer, just make him more efficient.

my thoughts

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in-too-deep

05-25-2006 14:59:00




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to nw_bearcat, 05-25-2006 14:39:36  
Well, the local Deere dealer is letting them try it out in hopes that they'll go green when they buy the system. The part they don't like is the the unit hangs off the steering column and turns the steering shaft manually....kind of awkward. The Case IH system ties right into the tractor's hydraulic steering and the only thing in the cab is the computer. That set-up sounds much better. In fact, the tractor is ready to accept the Case IH system, because it has a few controls that would run it. Either way, they say next year they're going to get it all set up. They run 9,000 acres and it would be a welcome upgrade.

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RustyFarmall

05-25-2006 13:50:35




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to in-too-deep, 05-25-2006 13:16:30  
I personally have not had experience with anything similar, but that technology does cause me to wonder just how long it will be before the farmer doesn't even need a hired man anymore? Just sit in the office, watch a monitor, and think about what's next.



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davpal

05-25-2006 21:33:51




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-25-2006 13:50:35  
Don't have to worry about that. In about three years the $5000 dollar plus system will be thrown in the corner of the tool shed because it is broken and "outdated" and the hired man will be planting again. I happen to know this because I have owned enough computers and if my car were as unreliable as a Gateway or a Dell for that matter I would never make it to work. I would be on the side of the road trying to reboot it!

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Bill from MA

05-25-2006 17:06:29




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 Re: Look Mom! No Hands! in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-25-2006 13:50:35  
>>does cause me to wonder just how long it will be before the farmer doesn't even need a hired man anymore?

Id bet as fast a possible.

Bill



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