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Jump Ship and Run?

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Allan In NE

05-22-2006 04:32:18




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Mornin' Guys,

The plan was that today I'd drag this old John Deere hay rake in and see if I could get in "kinda operational". :>(

Dunno, looked it over pretty good last night and I'm thinkin' maybe I should just haul it off. Wow! Is this thing ever in bad shape!

Is there a place where a feller could trade in "old junk fer not quite so old junk"? :>)

Allan

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Glen in TX

05-22-2006 11:48:23




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Hey Allen, Thats a good green rake to be junking? lol. I know parts cost but once it's fixed and cared for it will get the work done. We use to have a rake like that and we bought it cheap and the gear box was thrashed so we put a hydraulic motor on it from a salvage JD combine header reel and changed axle to sealed bearing spindles and a few new bearings and rubber mounted teeth and it worked great for years and the guy that bought it is still using it I think. We sold him the extra parts but I still got some extra manuals for it. That's a JD 850 series either a 851 or 855 I know by the star shaped cast bar wheel. Only problems I had last time was getting the bearings for the bar spindles from JD and other places and think I ended up finding a substitute bearing for that like a 7109 bearing and made a spacer or washers to get it to fit and work right. Shoups and other aftermarket has those teeth cheaper.

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jubilee johnny

05-22-2006 11:07:53




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
One more thing. You know what they say, "one man's junk is another man's treasure". A couple of weeks ago my cousin called from Holyoke, CO and told me he had located my great-grandfather's jd 1945 D and did I want it to restore? I've already restored my grandfather's jd 70 so I couldn't turn him down. So, here I go again on a 20 hour trip (one way) to retrieve somebody elses junk that will be my treasure.

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JDB

05-22-2006 10:50:29




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Chadron, NE.

I hear there's a guy up there who will even buy tractors that have combine engines in them. LOL
Sorry Allan, my spirit was willing to resist that one but my flesh was weak



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Allan In NE

05-22-2006 13:19:24




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to JDB, 05-22-2006 10:50:29  
Well,

The derned fool. Wonder what the heck is the matter with him? LOL!

Allan



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jubilee johnny

05-22-2006 09:14:03




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
I live in nc now but have brought back several implements from ne and eastern co that I have restored and looked worse than your rake. In nc everything rusts, too. I wouldn't get to set on throw'n it in the junk pile as it looks pretty good from here.



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old

05-22-2006 07:51:32




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Well Allan if thats a junk rake you wouldn't want to see what I use. I have been useing an old IH rake for years and that one you have pictured looks new compared to the one I use. The one I use even has the old oak wood block to tighten up the chain, which I had to replace a few years ago with an oak 2X4 which so far seems to work good

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Tim Shultz

05-22-2006 05:44:03




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
heck allan, that looks 100 times better than my old IH rake.. at LEAST 100 times better.. and them bars have half inch of slop.. I"ll take a close up so you can see how good of a rake you really have! but then I only gave $100 for mine three years ago.. I just grease the p!ss out of it and pray..
Tim Shultz



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Allan In NE

05-22-2006 05:48:44




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-22-2006 05:44:03  
Okay you guys,

I'll go drag 'er in here and see what's what. Maybe I'm just tired of "fixin'. :>)

Allan



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Sloroll

05-22-2006 05:54:30




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 05:48:44  
Paint it too.



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Dachshund

05-22-2006 05:22:29




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Heck, Allan - ship that thing East, I'll use it!
Galen



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KRUSS

05-22-2006 05:18:33




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
That rake doesn't look any worse than what we used to patch together and use. Ours were reliant on a lot of used oil and wire. Don't sell that one, find another like it and make one (hopefully). Rakes were made to be abused.



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Steve Crum

05-22-2006 05:10:48




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Your calling that bad shape? Looks new compared to a lot of them still in use around here. I had one just like that until I sold it to a guy at work last spring. Only way you could tell it was a Deere was a splotch of yellow paint on one of the wheels and a new green tine bar. He greased it up and used it all haying season. Things don't have to look like new or be new to work like new.



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Allan In NE

05-22-2006 05:19:51




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Steve Crum, 05-22-2006 05:10:48  
Heck,

I'm the king of running junk, but this one is stretchin' the imagination a little. Pretty sloppy in the dogs and axle area.

Think the darned gearbox maybe could use a "dance-thru" too. :>(

Allan



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Sloroll

05-22-2006 05:10:04




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
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Yup Allan. The Senate. I'm not sure about farm machinery though. With a little creativity you could mount a mail box on it and be the envy of your neighbors..

Looks like you got some rain out there the last couple of days. Keep it for a while longer I am in position to do really good business this Wed. and Thur. if the rain holds. Of course it is in the forcast. Got a world wide contingent flying in those two days. If it is stormy they will go to DesMoines and drive in.

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Allan In NE

05-22-2006 05:16:01




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Sloroll, 05-22-2006 05:10:04  
Hi Bill,

Naw, all we got was a sprinkle the night before last.

If it doesn't rain in the next day or two, I might as well hook on to the spring tooth and go do summer fallow 'cause there sure won't be any hay to put up. :>(

I haven't seen green like your picture since last summer and that was right before I wrote the check fer this farm. I always do things at the wrong time 'er wrong place. :>)

Allan

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Rauville

05-22-2006 05:05:35




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Allan In NE, 05-22-2006 04:32:18  
Use my Wife's theory; she grew up on a ND farm and goes by the practice that: "The crop takes priority over the machine, and man".
If she's on a tractor, hooked onto a piece of equipment; I'm running behind, waving a 18" Crescent wrench...do you get the picture?
If the hitch pin doesn't break, she'll go till the field gets cut, raked or baled. She always says: "There will be plenty of time to work on the stuff, when the job is done"!
Good Luck down there...☺☺☺

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Harley

05-22-2006 08:35:25




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 Re: Jump Ship and Run? in reply to Rauville, 05-22-2006 05:05:35  
Allan, the one I got says "Deering" on the tag. Not McCormack-Deering, just Deering. I think it was before Mr. McCormack was alive. It's got more chains and gears than an old wringer washing machine, and the way you put it in gear is go back on the axle and slide a sleeve with a notch in it over so it matches another notch on the wheel and then tighten down the set screw. You ain't seen primitive yet. The only other rake I've ever used was one my dad still has. John Deere with two smalll trailing wheels behind and two four footer tall ones in the front that drive the whole thing. Originally horsedrawn and somebody put a tongue on it. You just don't have any problems there except you're gonna need more grease. Harley

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