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37 chief

05-20-2006 22:05:56




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Does ir damage truck springs, or any other spring to leave a heavy load on them. Dad would always put a jack under the rear end of the truck when he had the truck loaded with beans. Some times it would be easy to leave my tractor loaded up when I had to go out the next day. Tractor and disc proubably weigh close to 4 ton. Stan




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Mark - IN.

05-21-2006 22:31:47




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to 37 chief, 05-20-2006 22:05:56  
Well Stan, you ask a simple question, get mobbed with two train of thoughts. I hope that you got your answer, although if you tally them up, I'll bet they're even, so you didn't. Making it worse, if you asked a spring manufacturer, I'd bet you'd get the same two different answers. Guess you'll have to decide on your own what's best. I don't like to leave heavy loads in smaller trucks for extended periods of time. Its not only the springs you have to worry about, but fatiging the mounts as well. Bigger trucks, no problem.

You decide Stan, but I'll bet by the time you've read my post, you'll have decided. Good luck either way, Grandpa.

Hey, I just figured it out. Let the new grandyoungin figure it out. Make your mind up ahead of time. Hold both index fingers out. If reaches for the left, its... If reaches for the right, its... I hope that you don't get wrecked afterwards though. It'd be hard to explain to the sheriff that "the left meant..., and the right meant..., and ... got pulled, so my springs broke and I got wrecked".

Mark

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Rauville

05-21-2006 09:57:23




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to 37 chief, 05-20-2006 22:05:56  
In our town there is a local "farmer" that feeds his hogs with left-over scraps, old fryer oil, elevator screenings...anything that is free.
He always drives around with a pickup loaded with 55 gal. barrels filled with these give-aways. You can spot him 3 blocks away, because the truck bed is just about hanging on the ground due to broken springs.
Over the past years, he has probably had at least 4-5 different used pickups...yet within just a couple of months, his "new" truck is already dragging it's rear.
I know this does not have a lot to do with your question of a static load, but I've always found this situation interesting.

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old

05-21-2006 08:56:21




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to 37 chief, 05-20-2006 22:05:56  
Theres 2 schools on that one. Some say it hurts them to sit loaded and some say it doesn't, but and heres the big one. It depends on the spring and the type of truck. You take the run of the mill chev or ford pickup well yes it hurts them to stay loaded for a long time but over night or a dya or so no its ok. The big rigs on the other hand can be loaded or unloaded and not hurt them but they also have spring packs that are 10 time stronger then the run of the mill chev or ford pickup. You ever see one of those old car driveing down the road that had a rear bumper almost hitting the road becuase of wore out springs?? That is caused by being over loaded and the load left on the springs for a long time

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Dan-IA

05-21-2006 09:11:34




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to old, 05-21-2006 08:56:21  
Dad's got a 76 Ford F-250 pickup, uses it to haul bean seed. A pallet of beans would make back end go down and the front end up (and steering kinda squirrely) but a pallet of beans might sit on it sometimes for a couple weeks. Never seemed to hurt it a bit. 61,000 actual miles (most of that pulling 400bu grain to the elevator.)



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old

05-21-2006 09:52:19




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to Dan-IA, 05-21-2006 09:11:34  
Well over a time doing that does hurt the springs. If you where to measure how high the bump sits when it was new then after a few years of doing that you would see that the bumper is slowly getting lower. Ya it may take a few years to see and inch but its is getting lower. I have taken brand new springs and set the beside old springs and there is a big differance in the old set and the new set.

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mike5100

05-21-2006 00:08:49




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to 37 chief, 05-20-2006 22:05:56  
Dont worry about hurting them. They are made to be loaded not to be empty. Sitting is no t even close to the abuse the road has to offer. Trust me I'm a truck mech by trade. Things break when you use them



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Larry in MO

05-20-2006 22:49:20




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to 37 chief, 05-20-2006 22:05:56  
Loaded trucks, and especially semi trailers set around loaded sometimes for months. Twenty five years of going to the west coast and back, with a lot of drop and hook loads and they may set there for several days before being delivered. Also, a lot of trailers are used for long term storage, so your truck being loaded overnight or the weekend won't hurt it.



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Jon Hagen

05-21-2006 06:43:33




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 Re: Truck springs in reply to Larry in MO, 05-20-2006 22:49:20  
Sounds right. I have read that a heavily loaded spring will not be damaged as long as the suspension does not move. The spring can be damaged if the spring is loaded to near it's limit with the suspension constantly moving. I seem to remember the old operators manuals saying to block up the old trucks,not to protect the springs,but to take the load off the tires.



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