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DRS

05-12-2006 16:26:14




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How much is it worth? '73 Ford 5000 gas with aftermarket front loader and blade on the rear. Tractor is faded, but runs good. needs tires all around. Loader is only 4 or 5 feet wide with deep bucket. What is the HP on these tractors, 50?




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j cook (iowa)

05-13-2006 11:02:57




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 Re: Forjd 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 16:26:14  
That 67hp gas tractor will burn just over 5 gallons of $2.839 per hour, at load which will cost about $14.20 per hour. That is because it gets 11.79 hphr/gal. On diesel. it gets 16.5 hphr/gal or uses about 4 gallons of $2.899-0.46 per hour, costing $9,51.

There is a $4.69 per hour fuel advantage with diesel.

Personally, I sold a perfectly good 1967 JD 3020g last year only because it WAS gas.

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souNdguy

05-13-2006 22:12:34




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to j cook (iowa), 05-13-2006 11:02:57  
I got a question / problem with those fuel consumption numbers.

I mow with my 1975 diesel 5000 and 2002 NH 7610s tractors.. up until now, with a 10' mower. It takes me about 2h 45m to mow 10 ac. 20 mins of that is drive to and from the pasture, at just under pto rpm.. and the other 2hr 25 min is full pto rpm.. mowing. They both use in the neighborhood of 5 gallons to accomplish this. I fill up after every mowing, and fill to the bottom of the tank neck... A 5g can empties down to a couple ounces to refill them.. both tractors have the same capacity fuel tank.

The 7610s is a 90-95 hp machine, and I've been mowing with it for a few years now.. it's fuel consumption has been this way since i got it. Only mowed with the 5000 a little bit.. but seems in line with the NH. Your tanks got a fuel leak you don't know about?

Soundguy

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RodInNS

05-14-2006 10:20:34




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to souNdguy, 05-13-2006 22:12:34  
Soundguy,

The numbers you put up are about right for average work. I've often seen those tractors burn 2-2.5 gph. However, if you took that 5000, and ran it at maximum power, steady, 100% for one hour, it would probably burn close to 4 gallons. I say probably, and close. I don't think it would burn quite that much, but it might. My 7710 will burn 4 gph while chopping silage... but that's turned up too..... Just looking at the nebraska test for fuel efficiency, at the rating listed, and the power found on the test... it got around 16 hp per gallon of fuel, so at 4gph, that's about 64 hp. So, theoretically, it could burn that amount of fuel.

I have absolutely no doubt in the world that the gasser would burn 5 gph. That's probably a conservative estimate, and by conservative, I mean it could burn more. I've got an IH C263 gas in an old combine, which is rated at 80 gross hp.... a bit less than the late 5000. It drinks 5 gph like nothing. It probably comes closer to 6 when it's working hard. It's just absolutley pathetic. I wouldn't suggest anyone ever buy a gas powered tractor to "work". Screwing around with it is one thing, working it is another thing. A gas tractor can, and will bankrupt you.

Rod

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souNdguy

05-14-2006 14:59:05




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to RodInNS, 05-14-2006 10:20:34  
Using my mower for comparison.. If my diesel is burning 5g in 2.75 hrs.. then i just don't see the gas 5000 burning about 13g in that same time, at the same load... Obviously the mower load I'm using is not utilizing all 67 pto hp.. probably alot less.. somewhere around 45-55 perhaps.. thus the unit is not running at full load.. etc.. same would be true of the gasser.. less load. less fuel consumption.

In either case.. I'm glad my 5000 is a diesel... etc.

Soundguy

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RodInNS

05-14-2006 16:04:39




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to souNdguy, 05-14-2006 14:59:05  
I know what you're saying about the load vs fuel consumption, but I've never found that it worked that well with gas engines. Diesel consumption is much more proportinate to load than gas, I find. The gassers just burn it anyway, whether or not there's anything to show for it. The buggers burn gas whether they're doing anything or not. Our old 860 was like that too. It burnt 2.5 gph, working or fartin' around. That's basically why there isn't a production run gasoline tractor made today, or for that matter, in the last 25 years. Diesel is so much more efficient.

Rod

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souNdguy

05-15-2006 06:40:25




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to RodInNS, 05-14-2006 16:04:39  
I know the gassers are wastefull.. but 2.5x as wastefull?!? I wish I knew someone with a 5000 gasser to let me borrow it to mow with one weekend to see how different it is than my diesel... If it is true that 2.75 hrs would burn 13g of gas.. wow... parade duty only I guess!

Cub cadet made a cut in the 28 hp range just a few years ago.. cat 1.. pto..rops etc.. real tractor.. not a lawnmower or hybred.

We have a cub dealer in our town, and i remember driving up and seeing a tractor with spark plugs! I almost bought it as a direct replacement for my 8n.. etc.. but found a NH tractor instead.

Soundguy

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souNdguy

05-12-2006 21:56:07




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 16:26:14  
Whereabouts is this anyway?

Soundguy



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DRS

05-14-2006 13:36:20




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to souNdguy, 05-12-2006 21:56:07  
Central Texas. Thanks for the comments.



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RodInNS

05-12-2006 18:10:17




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 16:26:14  
The later 5000's were rated at 67 hp. The early ones around 60. I think the 73 would have 67 hp. Those blue book values are probably fairly representative of my area, or perhaps a bit high on a gas job. You would deduct the value of the tires from that price, along with anything else it needs to be put in good working order. HTH.

Rod



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rgvtx

05-12-2006 17:12:06




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 16:26:14  
From my 2005 (year old) Tractor Blue Book:
1973 Ford 5000 Gas
$7819 Approximate retail NEW
$2600 Used Trade In Average
$3580 Used Trade In High
$6290 Used Retail Average
$7170 Used Retail High
PTO HP 65
Weight 6280 Lbs.

All the above is LESS the loader. Add whatever value you feel the loader is worth and you should have a ballpark figure.
HTH



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cockshuttguyr

05-12-2006 16:49:14




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 16:26:14  
The engine is 256 cu. in. and probably turns around the mid 50 hp. It is basically a bullet proof unit if properly maintained. My son's 1969 has a zillion hours and is still strong. If the tractor is in good condition and doesn't look and drive like it has been beat/neglected it would bring 4-5 grand in this neck of the woods. Another grand in tires and you should be good to go. How many hours does it have on the tack? If over 5000 hours there might be a few things that will need attention. Clutch? etc.
It is one of the strongest Fords ever built.
Good Luck.

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DRS

05-12-2006 20:16:58




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to cockshuttguyr, 05-12-2006 16:49:14  
Thanks for the help. The tractor runs good, does not smoke and the owner claims it does not use oil. Tack is broken and he says he has no idea how many hours it has on it. He is asking $5895 and I think I will pass. A smaller tractor will meet my needs, but there are not many used with a loader on the market in the 40 to 50 HP range. Thanks again, and have a good day.



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souNdguy

05-12-2006 21:54:14




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 Re: Ford 5000 value in reply to DRS, 05-12-2006 20:16:58  
I think the price he is asking is close to reasonable.. though not a dteal. if he would come down to 5500 or lower.. It would be a good deal. The loader will be usefull and offset the price of the rubber, along with the rear balde.. etc.

Around here in florida and georgia, 5000's go for 5000 for beaer, and up to 8000 for parade show queens.workers in the 6500 range.

Soundguy



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