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Difference in oils for gas and disel

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Paul in ON

05-11-2006 17:45:02




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I went to the NH parts dept for a Ford 4000 gas and they gave me something on the bottle that said for disel engines. Why say this if you can use them for both gas and disel? Paul




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frankiee

05-12-2006 04:24:16




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 Re: Difference in oils for gas and disel in reply to Paul in ON, 05-11-2006 17:45:02  
Hi Paul in ON
I'm Frankiee in ON
Diesel has a lot of sulphur. And we all heard of sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid likes having bearings for breakfast with a bit of toast. The opposite of acid is base. The base will neutralize the acid that develops. Gas engines have oils with about 1 to 6 for a Total Base Number (TBN) and Diesels have about 6 to 50 for a TBN.(Or higher for heavy fuels)

Ask your engine manufacturer as to the recommended TBN should be if the value is not in your literature.

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Jon Hagen

05-11-2006 19:06:53




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 Re: Difference in oils for gas and disel in reply to Paul in ON, 05-11-2006 17:45:02  
look at the API circle on the jug,if it has a rating that starts with S (SF-SG etc) then it is rated for "spark" ignition engines. If it also carries a C rating (CF-CG etc) then it is also rated for "compression" ignition engines or diesel. Many oils carry the additive package for both gasoline (S) engines and light duty(C) diesel engines.

An interesting story in one of my performance car magazines,is that modern S(gasoline) only engine oils are now formulated for engines with roller cams/lifters which have been standard for the last 15-20 years,have almost none of the additive needed to protect a flat tappet cam/lifters. This additive will mess up cat converters and oxygen sensors,which the car makers must now warrenty for 100,000 miles,plus very little of the additive is necessary with modern roller lifter engines,so it has been almost eliminated. The story said for your older gasoline engines with flat tappet cams,you should now use only heavy duty diesel oil which still has enough of the additive to prevent wear on flat tappet cams.

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Jonfarmer

05-11-2006 19:06:14




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 Re: Difference in oils for gas and disel in reply to Paul in ON, 05-11-2006 17:45:02  
It's pretty standard to use 15W-40 in diesels and 10W-30 in gassers.



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Mike M

05-11-2006 19:02:36




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 Re: Difference in oils for gas and disel in reply to Paul in ON, 05-11-2006 17:45:02  
You can use oil rated for a diesel in a gas but you really should not use gas rated oil in a diesel.



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