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Welding rims and how and can it be done

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old

05-01-2006 21:13:00




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I have 2 rims from an Allis C. Both are rusted out about 30-40%. Been thinking about cutting both in half and then welding the 2 halfs back togeather. But the problem is how to make sure they are to big or to small to then mount the tires. Any ideas??
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champspa

05-02-2006 15:58:47




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
tape measure the bead diameter before you cut , then ajust . tape measure the bead diameter after .



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Hermit

05-02-2006 10:21:06




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
I would try to cut each rim a little more than 50%. That way you can overlap them in the middle and then adjust them to the proper width.



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RobertTX

05-02-2006 09:05:51




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
Always cut your patch or replacement piece first. Clean up the cut and get it prepped for welding, then lay it over the bad section and mark the joint. Not sure if I understand how you were planning to do this, but I have found that this method works for wheels, sheet metal, etc.



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old

05-02-2006 09:22:24




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to RobertTX, 05-02-2006 09:05:51  
Well on these rims I have to cut them in half, across the circle of the rim and then remake the circle of the rim. Both rims have so much gone that is the only way to save them but not really sure if its even worth tring to do so.



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Errin OH

05-02-2006 06:35:54




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
I combine the two sugestions below with slight modifications.

First, you didn't say but, if there is a disk (hole mounts in the rim) I wouldn't cut it. Just cut the where the tire mounts. If needed cut the disk away from the part being removed from the good rim. Next I lay out a template (plywood with blocks to fit the rim in it). Mark on it where the cuts need to be. Transfer those marks to both rims (donor and one to be fixed). Doesn't half to be exacly half, just make sure you get a good piece with both sides / sizes. Put square on mark and transfer mark to other side of rim. If you have access to one of those cheap laser lines it makes marking the inside easy, otherwise make a line as best you can between the two marks. Over cut by about 1/4, 1/2, inch and grid down to the line. Once you get close put the pieces back in the jig and finish fitting. After you have a good dry fit in the jig, while in the jig, tack three or spots. Turn it over in the jig and tack it again. Pick it up role it around and when your happy with it finish weld both cuts and center disk if needed.

Sounds like a lot of work but it goes fairly quick. Just make sure you have good metal where you weld them back together. I did a ford rim once that looked good but every time I hit it with the welder in blow out another thin spot. Ended up tossing the whole mess after couple hours of screwing with it.

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JMS/MN

05-01-2006 22:38:49




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
With the rim laying flat on the floor, lay a straightedge across the rim. With one end fixed, move the other end until you get the same measurement from the middle of the straightedge to either side. Drop a square down to mark where to cut through the rim at each end of the straightedge. Should end up with equal halves.



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Turk

05-01-2006 22:10:38




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 Re: Welding rims and how and can it be done in reply to old, 05-01-2006 21:13:00  
Use a good wheel as a jig and clamp the bigger piece to it and fit the smaller piece.



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