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paul in on

04-27-2006 09:03:34




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Posted this over in the Ford section and didn't get a response. Here was my original question. Tractor is a gas, 4 cyl, Ford 4000.

When you increase the throttle to about the place where it should be for the PTO, is jumps about 500 - 1000 rpms. Revs up and down. Something to do with the govener. What should I do? I can idle it at pretty low.

So, if you don't know what to do specifically on a 4000, for any general tractor, what would you do. Thanks. Paul

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KEB

04-27-2006 14:13:57




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to paul in on, 04-27-2006 09:03:34  
Did this start all of a sudden? If so, look for a broken spring in the governor. If not, see previous responses.

Keith



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paul in on

04-27-2006 14:18:09




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to KEB, 04-27-2006 14:13:57  
I got the tractor about 3 weeks ago and am slowly trying to work out the porblems with it.



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Red Dave

04-27-2006 12:00:13




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to paul in on, 04-27-2006 09:03:34  
I don't know much about Fords in particular, but I have done some governor work on other brands and it sounds like your governor is out of adjustment. It's sounds like it's surging and there ought to be an adjustment for that.

Get yourself a good service manual for your model tractor, either from a dealer or an IT manual. There should be a governor set-up procedure in the manual. Follow it and get it adjusted properly. If that won't cure your problem, then you may have other problems inside the governor, like worn parts. The manual should cover repairing that too.

At least, that's what I would do.

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Allan In NE

04-27-2006 10:24:05




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to paul in on, 04-27-2006 09:03:34  
Paul,

I'll argue this one until the cows come home.

The carb and the governor need to be syncronized so that they are both doing the same requested function.

If the carb is trying to open up and the governor is trying to shut it down, the result is a never-ending flare repeating over and over again.

Proceedure is in your IT manual.

Allan



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Gritty

04-27-2006 09:24:48




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to paul in on, 04-27-2006 09:03:34  
I've seen that before on mine.What I found was that the governor needed to be adjusted a little to get in sink with the carb.My 2 cents.Gritty



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paul in on

04-27-2006 09:25:49




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to Gritty, 04-27-2006 09:24:48  
How do u adjust the govenor?



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old

04-27-2006 09:19:07




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to paul in on, 04-27-2006 09:03:34  
That problem can also be caused by a carb that isn't set correctly. What happens if you grab the governor rod nd hold it instead of letting the governor do its thing?? If when you grab it and open up the trottle does the engine run at the same rpm of does if still jump up and down. If it still jumps up and down its probably the carb.

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Bob

04-27-2006 17:03:08




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to old, 04-27-2006 09:19:07  
I agree with "old". While this COULD be a governor wear or adjustment problem, an out-of adjustment or clogged carburetor will cause a surge like this.

At light load, the carburetor is operating on the "idle" circuit, as the throttle opens, fuel flow tranfers to the "load" circuit. There are passages that supply fuel to aid in this transfer, and if they're clogged, the engine will "falter" as the mixture goes too lean. Then, the governor will jerk the throttle open, and fuel flow will be through the "load" circuit, the engine will gain speed, the governor will close the throttle, and the cycle will repeat.

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paul in on

04-27-2006 18:03:26




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 Re: engine reving up and down in reply to Bob, 04-27-2006 17:03:08  
best thing to do is take the carb off, take it apaert and clean it along with the fuel lines? Paul



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