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Western, Pa. Coyotes

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dej(JED)

04-12-2006 05:08:20




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I know this isn't tractor talk stuff, but I figured someone on here would have some ideas. About 330am to around 630am the coyotes start barking like a pack of hounds chasing something.
I knew they were around, but they weren't ever as noisy as they have been these days. Do you suppose firing a few rounds at them might quiet them down. They are waking me up every night these days and at 50 plus I need my beauty sleep..

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noncompos

04-13-2006 09:58:21




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
You ever want to hear some pretty good stories about how smart coyotes are, ask around to see if anyone"s tried to trap "em...it"s a pretty humbling experience...and if they aren"t getting anything, like your cats (they love cats) they are nice to hear sometimes.



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RayP(MI)

04-12-2006 18:20:14




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Hear them (coyotes) from time to time, sounds like a dog coming home to a den of puppies. Only lasta s minute or two, and then silence. Have gone out with a strong spotlite immediately on hearing them, never have managed to spot them. One night we were spotlighting, when an ambulance went by on the highway, three miles distant. Coyotes were answering the yelps of the siren. Very interesting... That night we heard yelps from several directions, but nothing nearby. seems as tho the pack visits this area every couple weeks or so, then drift off somewhere else. Am very worried this time of the year, as this is lambing time. Would sure hate to loose any of the little ones. Keep reminding my llamas to be vigalent!

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hayray

04-12-2006 16:58:12




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
I agree with cowman, hearing those are a nice sounding as hearing the crickets at night. Fireing shots ain't gonna get rid of them. I hunt them in the winter and they are real tuff to get near.



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cockshuttguy

04-12-2006 11:02:31




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
We have a lone Canada goose that is very aggressive. He/she keeps them at bay during the daytime. We do hear them at night sometimes, but not too often. You'd have to see this goose to believe it.
Even very large dogs and fox get chased away. Saves on ammmo.



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Billy NY

04-12-2006 08:58:50




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
The same thing happens here, our place is a valley and the side hills that were once fields are overgrown, with only the bottom field still in use, they always head for the bottom areas after dark or early morning like you mentioned. Seems they do travel, not here all the time, but when they are, you know it. They do get close to house, and howl, interupting ones sleep! Hard to interpret how many but, could be a dozen and they do pressure the deer big time as I've seen 1st hand. You can tell when they are around by how the deer act. Even having the time to set up and start eliminating them, using bait or some other means to draw em in, it's going to be difficult to eliminate them all, possibly control them a bit but they're back in strong numbers and healthy. I did catch one taking a morning nap and proceeded to sneak right up to him, got so close I could have given him the boot, while standing over him, eventually he turned around and when he saw me, his legs could not have gotten underneath him fast enough. He was 200-250 yards away, in the sun, he found a great nap area, he must have been tired from the nights hunt. I crept in quiet areas hiding behind bushes, I made sure to line up behind his ears, to make my approach, and was creeping in short grass, he never heard or got wind of my scent, wish I had the camera, I stood next to him for a good 5 minutes or more, he just happened to glance around, then saw me, was never alerted to my presence, gave me a stare and sprung up and ran quickly away. I just had to see one up close.

Walked right up on a healthy red fox hunting a pheasant once, had no clue I was there, I had heard the pheasant make some odd noise ( he was a local I used to feed from my porch, had a breeding pair, really enjoyed having them around, never knew where they came from either ) I saw the pheasant tip toeing away out flanking the fox, he was slow to pick up his scent, he never even gave me a look he was so busy, was 30 feet away in a brush area at the end of a trail. That pheasant easily outsmarted him and got away. The fox sure was healthy, must be all the rabbits and mice here. When the pheasant would come by, if he saw the neighbors dog 200 yards away, he would go into stealth mode immediately, interesting little fellow, our place was loaded with them, I think the predators did them in, had not seen one here for close to 20 years, we used to hunt them often.

Newest addition here is bobcat, I don't I'll ever get a chance to stalk him, he's real serious about not being seen, he carefully snuck past me last deer season, while I was up in a stand watching, never saw one before, food must be plentiful here there's lot of action out there now.

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Nebraska Cowman

04-12-2006 08:54:47




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Oh yeah, we are almost at full moon, a few days and they'll quiet down, Night life is always more active under moonlight.



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Nebraska Cowman

04-12-2006 08:50:41




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Come visit a while. I'll teach you to fall asleep to the coyotes lullaby, There ain't no sweeter music to me. And naah, they ain't chasing nothin' (unless they've bred with dogs) They're sittin' on a ridge somewhere talkin' to there friend. And that "pack" you hear is more likely one or two. The way they change pitch it makes one sound like a dozen.



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Jimmy King

04-12-2006 09:11:27




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-12-2006 08:50:41  
Cowman, they also can sound like they are just a little ways from you when they are quite a ways.



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Kendog

04-12-2006 06:06:24




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Dej- I sent you an email.



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PhilcaseinWPa

04-12-2006 05:56:05




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Hey JED

Where are you in W. Pa. I am in central Beaver Co.
Neighbor shot one a couple years ago and one was killed on the road last spring. I hear them occasionally but not often. I don't have any livestock anymore (except for my sister's horses) so they aren't doing me any harm yet. Maybe they even help control the deer. I seemed to have less deer damage this past summer than usual.

Phil

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Mark - IN.

04-12-2006 05:47:39




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 Re: Western, Pa. Coyotes in reply to dej(JED), 04-12-2006 05:08:20  
Don't know the laws in your state, but in Indiana, as a property owner on my property, is open season 365 days per year, night's out. Don't know how close you are to neighbors, firing a round or two at 3AM might start something, and if shoot up, has to come back down somewhere.

Set yourself outside before it gets light out so are set at sun up, be out of their wind direction so they can't smell you, and they've got excellent smellers and keen eyesight on them. .17 or .22 calibers work excellent, but travel forever so don't miss. They're wiley and don't like it out in the open (fields and stuff). Will work their way along fence lines or through brush. The slightest notion (smell or movement) that you're around and its zero to landspeed record out of there for them. They are fast - zero to gone in a snap.

Mark

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