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Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa

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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 03:25:17




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Mornin' Guys,

Gonna be a darned busy week around here. I know, I know; be careful what ya wish for. :>(

Anyhoo, I have to redo an old alfalfa field because the grasses have pretty much taken the thing over and I have to keep it in alfalfa this year to keep my rotation correct. Also, I gotta get it done this week, because the alfalfa is really coming on fast.

I was told it is in it's fourth year, which in all reality probably translates into about 7 or 8 years, if the truth be known. Soil here is a very heavy black loam and clay mix.

Neighbor told me yesterday that he uses a springtooth one time at an angle and then the second time following the direction that the swather will travel. That way, the swather will have less chance of plugging.

I'm settin' here wondering if I can't just springtooth it fairly deep once and then just roll my old packer over the field to break up any clods that are gonna be wanting to plug the sickel.

Does that sound like a plan?

Allan

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hayray

04-11-2006 04:49:04




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 03:25:17  
I'm tellin' ya, Poast Plus works.

Ray



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c hess

04-10-2006 10:41:30




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 03:25:17  
Agree with all posts about spring harrow roughing up helps but would add you might need potash also.



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Scotmac

04-10-2006 09:12:15




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 03:25:17  
Mornin' Allan! I've been in the seed business over 35 years now, so I'm talking from a little experiance. The 'ol boys around here used to lightly disc established alafalfa stands then harrow it in the oposite direction. The disc split the crown open causing the alfalfa plant to shoot new runners and spread. The harrow smoothed the field back up and threw a little dirt back on the plant.I think your idea is fine and some rain soon after you did it would only make it better. You don't have anything to loose 'cept time and a little fuel money!

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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 11:28:32




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Scotmac, 04-10-2006 09:12:15  
Yes Sir,

Thanks fer the reinforcement.

I knew it worked 'cause it was a chore I didn't like very much when I was young, but it is just something that has to be done to maintain a healthy stand of alfalfa.

Later,

Allan



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Coloken

04-10-2006 06:13:07




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 03:25:17  
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This is what friend is using on his old field. Figures that it will not kill all the alfalfa, but he will plant a forage type oates into it, cut the mixture, then this fall rip it all up to replant. BTW,thats a lot of cheap power. Those old Stigers come cheap.
Kennyp

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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 06:46:30




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Coloken, 04-10-2006 06:13:07  
I know a fella that used one of those heavy John Deere one-ways on a 20-year-old patch when he was a youngster. Said he sunk 'er clear to the hubs as he was actually trying to kill the field.

A three day rain came along right after he got done. The alfalfa sprouted out of the crowns and roots too. He told me that it came back double and he left the field for another 20 years. :>)

Allan



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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2006 04:27:31




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 03:25:17  
save your fuel and cut the hay. I have never seen a cow that would't eat a little grass with her alfalfa. Anytime you open up the ground it is going to grow either grass or weeds. I'd leave well enough alone. third party image
Even bad boys are just as good as they can be

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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 04:56:09




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2006 04:27:31  
Mornin' Howard,

Doggone it, I just can't do that.

It is full of cheatgrass and it's gotta go.

Allan

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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2006 06:40:09




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 04:56:09  
Wow! you are way ahead of me. That looks ready to cut! But pay attention Allan, there was a guy here that inherited his dads money and farms. He made the brag that he could never spend it all. Even though he died young the money and the land are no longer in the family.



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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 06:48:35




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2006 06:40:09  
Those pictures are from last year. :>)

Allan



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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 06:51:00




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 06:48:35  
Oh,

And I've already went broke on my own money. I know fullwell how the process works. :>)

Allan



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steveormary

04-10-2006 10:17:15




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2006 06:51:00  
Dont know about the cheat grass. I think it will be too late to cut the cheat grass when the alfalfa is ready. Do know that if you hit the alfalfa with a spike tooth harrow or disk it lightly you will improve the stand. Never tried a spring tooth. Had a small field(8-10 acres)in alfalfa for about 15 years.

steveormary



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Allan In NE

04-10-2006 10:46:00




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 Re: Breathin' New Life in Alfalfa in reply to steveormary, 04-10-2006 10:17:15  
Hi Steve,

Yes sir, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Allan



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