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Bill46

04-06-2006 09:02:06

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Ok...I know Allan is going to stomp me for this.
I know in some situations a wide front may somehow be better, but why do folks say they are better?
I come from hill country, and I know a tractor can turn over. But by the time the front axle hits the stops...it more than likely is too late to stop it from going over.
The lower utility should be used in these situations.
I have looked at a lot of tractors...and some of the old iron just plain looks better with a narrow front.
I like my 450D with a narrow front...and when I find a good 560D...if it has a wide front...I will put a narrow one on it...just my likes.
Besides...they sure do turn a lot shorter when raking and bailing hay.
Ok Allan....stomp away..... .

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Leland

04-06-2006 19:45:29

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

The only thing a NF is good for is backing wagons into the barn ,other than that they make good boat anchors .

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CLW

04-06-2006 19:41:27

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

Someone posted a year or so ago about a safety film they watched at the dealer he worked for. They had a Farmall M wide and narrow go on a ever increasing incline. Both went over at the same spot. I think everyone here has made good points.
CLW

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Bill(Wis)

04-06-2006 17:58:45

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

The narrow fronts were ideal for cultivating corn. Lots of ground clearance. With drop axle design or high rear wheels you could get up over 30" of clearance. No mop down. My regular job in May, June and first part of July was to cultivate corn from daybreak until about 10 when the dew was off the hay and then go out again after supper until sundown and cultivate corn again. That all ended and loaders and bigger tractors came along and the narrow fronts went away.

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Dave NE IA

04-06-2006 16:35:28

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

Bill 46 You preach my sermon well. I'm with you 100% on the saftey issue. I tell everyone to take a wide front toy tractor and pretend. By the time the front bolster stops bottom out, it is way to late in the ball game, or should I just say --game over. As far as looks better, Everyone has different girlfriends that look better---Well you know-- I say make it look better in your opinion, and the rest can do what they think looks best.

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IaGary

04-06-2006 14:07:57

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

I agree with Joe TX on the windrow deal and Glenn on the mud issue when it comes to front end loaders for sure.

In soft ground the NF tends to slide a trench rather than turning.

The ride is my main reason for wide fronts for me though.

If my 560 had NF I would not have used it for harrowing.

I've also seen those narrow fronts break off when hitting an unknown hole.

But its all just a personal preferance.

So use what you like. Gary

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Paul In On

04-06-2006 11:28:56

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

I think the reason that people don"t tip narrow front tractors as often is beacuse you use more caution. The wide front gives a person a sense of security even though they"re just or almost as likely to tip. They end up going somewhere they wouldn"t with a narrow front. Just my 2 cents. Paul

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Steven@AZ

04-06-2006 11:05:27

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

I'll just chime in with: you need to use common sense with either type. I've seen plenty of the wide front end tractors tipped over. Can't say I've ever personally seen a narrow front tipped, only heard about it.

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Bill46

04-06-2006 10:30:59

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

True to form Allan....good answer.

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Nebraska Cowman

04-06-2006 10:06:33

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

We like what we grew up on and I growed up with wide front WD Allis and the Ford-Ferguson. But I do like my Farmall M narrow front for drilling cane.

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Joe(TX)

04-06-2006 10:04:37

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

I changes from narrow to wide front. The wide front steers and rides better. Not near as much bounce. If the front wheel hits a hole, the front only goes down half a much. You can also see where your tires are running. It still turns just a fast as the narrow did.
Wide fronts are better for raking and cutting since you don"t have to drive on top of the windrow.
If you like the narrow front, go for it. It"s your tractor.

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Glenn F.

04-06-2006 09:47:25

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

We've had narrow fronts on the farm for over 60 years. Hills=no problem. You have to use your head no matter how the tractor is equipped. Narrow front's limitation is in the mud. With our heavy soil, that is a significant limitation. Glenn F.

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Allan In NE

04-06-2006 09:38:24

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Bill46, 04-06-2006 09:02:06

Not me Bill,

'Taint a thing wrong with the narrow fronts if that is what ya like.

I can remember as a youngster spinnin' the steering wheel on the old H and makin' her come right back in her same rear track. Always thought that was pretty darned neat.

My problem now that I'm old, is that I need that wide front so I can look down and tell what part of the tractor is the front. Big wheels on the back, little 'ons on the front. :>)

Allan

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kyhayman

04-06-2006 18:15:14

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Re: Narrow vs wide front in reply to Allan In NE, 04-06-2006 09:38:24

So thats what I've been doing wrong all this time, LOL!!.

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