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Farmall M........water in oil

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Buss66

04-06-2006 08:12:28

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I have a Farmall M that has water in the oil.

I was going to replace the head gasket but someone told me it was probably a hole in one of the sleeves.

I have been searching for sleeves and it seems there are several different ones. How do I know which one i need? Is there a number on the block that i can use?

Thanks for any help.

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George G

04-06-2006 09:01:17

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to Buss66, 04-06-2006 08:12:28

The M's engine is a dry sleeve type engine. If you are getting water down past a sleeve, Then the thin casting around the sleeve is cracked (not uncommon). You would have to drop the oil pan to see witch one is leaking. Best to pressurize the cooling system to around 10psi. Once you find the leak. pull that sleeve. I've been told, they epoxy those cracks. You might want too go to the Farmall board and ask.

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the tractor vet

04-06-2006 09:36:25

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to George G, 04-06-2006 09:01:17

Ya bore the block and install a repair sleeve and bore it to take the OEM sleeve then it is fixed .

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rbuss66

04-06-2006 08:57:09

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to Buss66, 04-06-2006 08:12:28

Thanks for the info!

I thought it might be getting water from the exhaust manifold but it hasn't rained since i change the oil and when i check the oil the other day it was milky.

As far as how it runs, it seems to run great so maybe its something simple. Thanks again for yalls help.

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the tractor vet

04-06-2006 08:41:02

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to Buss66, 04-06-2006 08:12:28

Well before i order any parts for and engine it is layed out in all kinds of littel pieces and parts and i do some massuren then go looken for what i need . as far as the water in the oil there are a lot of it could be's . And as far as re using a head gskt over ain't no way as once crushed it is done for plain and simple.

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OK PSU Kid

04-06-2006 08:24:07

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to Buss66, 04-06-2006 08:12:28

I'm not a master mechanic but I think if you had a hole in a sleeve you would experence loss of compression, and would run like crap. Try a compression test. Then if everything comes up even pull the head and look at the sleeves, if your head gasket looks good you can use spray-on Copper Seal and it will help seal it again(cheaper than a new gasket). Might check the torque on the head bolts before you pull it off. But be sure of the problem before you buy an expensive sleeve.
good luck
OPSU Kid

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supergrumpy

04-06-2006 09:07:56

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Re: Farmall M........water in oil in reply to OK PSU Kid, 04-06-2006 08:24:07

worked on a 400 with severe water in the oil, engine even hydraliced and had to pull spark plug to turn engine over, she ran like a champ once she fired

had bad join between the exhaust manifold and the exhaust stack, tractor was parked outside and rain was getting in that way

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