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Tank type engine heaters

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Stickler

02-17-2006 20:38:28




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Just curious.....never ran one on a tractor. On a truck, they go in the heater hose..... .....where do they hook up on a tractor?




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Steve Crum

02-18-2006 03:58:23




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-17-2006 20:38:28  
I have a 1500w tank heater on my 310A deere diesel backhoe. It plumbs in on the left side of the engine and takes out of the bottom of the block and puts back into the side of the head. both ports are factory drilled. I only need to plug this in for about 1/2 hour on the coldest of days to get it running. I hate using ether.



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Hugh MacKay

02-19-2006 04:14:54




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Steve Crum, 02-18-2006 03:58:23  
Steve: My heaters all 1500 watt, were plumbed as yours is and my starting experience was very close to identical. Even at -35F two hours of heater equaled a summer like start.



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Hugh MacKay

02-18-2006 01:32:38




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-17-2006 20:38:28  
Stickler: I had 3 of these on 3 different tractors, 2 Farmall 282 diesels and a 404 Deere. All 3 were plumbed from the engine block drain to a port about center of head, just as Bob said. They all worked very well. These are usually available in several different wattages all the way from 250 to 1500. They all have thermostates, or at least the one's I had did.

The higher watt heaters don't need to be plugged in over night. I didn't use my tractors much in winter, thus I didn't keep them plugged in. With 1500 watt heaters, one just had to plug them in about 2 hours before you wanted to start.

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Stickler

02-18-2006 05:18:09




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-18-2006 01:32:38  
Ok..... ...was more curious about the head port....being from Manitoba, I'm all too familiar with engine heaters, just never ran a tank heater on a tractor before. It was -39°C here last night, with 30km/h wind, for a wind chill of -57°C, or -70.6°F! Thanks! This is on a 666 gasser I'm thinking about. She has two block heaters, but the darned cords keep coming loose and wife ain't smart enough to check them ( i work 450 miles away), so I'm trying to come up with something goof-proof, instead of just proof that there's a goof.

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Answer Guy.

02-18-2006 06:46:34




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-18-2006 05:18:09  
...Well, I guess that you could start with the biggest cause of this problem..... ..... the wife... Now these items are notorious for being hard to properly program. To reprogram is almost impossible. Also, accelerated depreciation translates into reduced, nil, or worse yet, negative trade value. So you see, you have presented this board with the most complicated problem known to man...., and, unfortunately, NO known acceptable solution!!!!! !!Have a good day, and hopefully a warm night!!!!! Just do not forget to get everything plugged in!!! ( and you have two of them...lucky....)

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Stickler

02-18-2006 09:15:27




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Answer Guy., 02-18-2006 06:46:34  
Well, two block heaters are definitely better than two wives!!!!! !!!



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Answer Guy

02-18-2006 12:24:12




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-18-2006 09:15:27  
..... ..And you are speaking from experience..... .at the same time?????you old sly dog!!!!! !!!!!



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Hugh MacKay

02-18-2006 05:35:26




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-18-2006 05:18:09  
Stickler: I am not familiar with Farmall 6 cylinder gassers. I only ever saw one in my life, and that was a 460 many years ago. My two 282 diesels were in 560 and 656. Those diesel heads had a port above each cylinder into the water chamber. Those ports were aprox 1". They had a large plug one could remove with square end of 1/2" drive handle. I remember I had to make up fittings to get it to size and so it wouldn't protrude enough to catch items brushing by tractor.

These work very well, the down side is they rust out. About 6 years you change them or you find antifreeze on ground some morning.

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Stickler

02-18-2006 09:14:00




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-18-2006 05:35:26  
I hear ya on the rustout..... we get cast aluminum ones here too, that don't rust, just leak from the gasket. I'll have to look closer at the gasser and see if there any convenient ports.

Allen, you have one, do me a favor and have a boo for me next time you're out there?



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Bob

02-17-2006 22:19:53




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 Re: Tank type engine heaters in reply to Stickler, 02-17-2006 20:38:28  
One scenario is from block drain port to port in cylinder head.



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