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Tweeter

03-30-2006 09:26:35




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I found a trailer for sale. The ad states that it is sixteen foot deck, SINGLE axle, rated at 10,000 lb., heavy duty, hydraulic brakes. The trailer is small enough to be pulled behind a pickup truck. Is a single axle rated at 10,000# possible? Is there any problems with a single axle trailer pulling 7000# loads?




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john in la

03-30-2006 16:04:05




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
I would have to see it to comment on this trailer but think about it. They load 20,000 lbs in a single axle pup trailer and pull it with a single axle truck.

It is most likely a single axle with duel wheels.
I would pass as you would need to pay very close attention to placement of load on trailer for the proper tongue weight.



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dhermesc

03-30-2006 11:40:42




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
Could they possible mean single "tire" axles? If it is truly a single axle trailer I'd pass no matter the price was unless you're planning on cutting 6' off of it.



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souNdguy

03-30-2006 11:14:53




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
Pulling anything over 3000# total on a single axle is going to be a white knuckle experience IMHO... especially with surge brakes.. get a tandem.. you won't be sorry..

Soundguy



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mjbrown

03-30-2006 10:22:47




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
I wouldn't be wild about hydraulic brakes either in that weight range. Two axles make a smoother ride for your load also.



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Hurst

03-30-2006 10:07:40




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
It is probably a dually 10000lb axle. They have them on goose necks in tandem. I would personally find a tandem with 2 5000 lb axles. If hauling 7000 lbs, it may be worth it to upgrade to a gooseneck with 2 7000lb axles. Good luck.

Hurst



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Carl NY

03-30-2006 09:52:18




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  

Are you going to have a problem towing 7000# on a single axle trailer? YES. Look for a double axle trailer an save yourself alot of grief.



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Allan In NE

03-30-2006 09:44:50




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 09:26:35  
Sounds like it was made using an old truck axle?

Allan



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massey333

03-30-2006 13:32:38




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Allan In NE, 03-30-2006 09:44:50  
Alan,I'am ashamed of you,I-H,J-D,Miller andsome others sold a 16-18 ft.single axle dual wheel trailer with a tilt bed in the 40's50's and 60's with air, hyd.,or elect.brakes.Dealers used them for every thing hauling Dozers and tractors upto and inc.Case 500's Massey 55's,Oliver99's behind 3/4 and ton trucks.Some dealers used them to load their big trucks so they could haul 2 or 3 tractors at a time.They weren't the best but I have pulled them several thousand mile with 6 to 10,000 lb.Loads.Dig out your OLD IHC and Deere lit.

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Tweeter

03-30-2006 16:26:34




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to massey333, 03-30-2006 13:32:38  
This trailer is a 16ft tilt deck. It has a winch on it too. Hydraulic brakes and the ad states that it is heavy duty made of C Channel. Do you have in pictures of the old delivery trailers?



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massey333

03-30-2006 17:00:34




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 16:26:34  
No i don't, that I can think of right now. That sounds like the old Miller Trailers or Others like them.I think some of those were made clear up into the 90s or maybe still are.??? I still see them a few times a year.IF you had GOOD TIRES and a STRONG HITCH on your truck and watched your balance Point,I think they would haul about anything.The same trailers are made today with two or three axles but are called backhoe,dozer trailers.They are good trailers just watch your balance point and PUT blocks or something under the trailer tonque when you have it tipped so you don't overload your hitch when the bed comes down.Very few modern hitches will stand the shock.

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Tweeter

03-30-2006 17:04:24




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to massey333, 03-30-2006 17:00:34  
Are the trailers your talking about low profile? I am told this is low profile. Im told that it was factory made a few years ago with lights and all. How wide were the decks on the trailer you are thinking of?



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massey333

03-30-2006 17:52:39




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Tweeter, 03-30-2006 17:04:24  
96 inches wide and apx.34 to 40 inches high and two or three speed hand crank winches.7:50 to 8:25-16 17 or 18" dual tires.Depends on what the customer wanted.After the last post I happened to think of two near me used daily or weekly to haul Small Loader hoes and round hay bales for feeding cattle. No, I don't any way of posting pictures.Sorry



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Allan In NE

03-30-2006 13:49:10




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to massey333, 03-30-2006 13:32:38  
I dunno,

But, not out here. Dozers, draglines, Cats and the like were always hauled on low-boys and all tractors were delivered on single axle or tandem axle flatbed trucks up and thru the 70s.

First trailer I ever saw behind a pickup was a horsetrailer around 1972 or thereabouts.

Guess I was sheltered. :>)

Allan



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massey333

03-30-2006 15:12:53




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Allan In NE, 03-30-2006 13:49:10  
Sorry Allan if I came on too strong but my dad built trailers(4 wheel wagons)with vac.brakes in the 40's to supplment his farm income.Some of them were replaced with the John Deere 963 wagons with hyd.brakes and I know some of Dads and the 963's were used into the 80's behind pickups.Up until the 70's or so,Pickups and wagons &trailers were used probily used 5 to 1 over big trucks.Dad farmed until he was 92 and never owned any thing bigger than a F-600 which was for gravel only.My tandem is run 1000 to 1500 mile a year.My 350 with any of five trailers is run20 to 50,000 a year.TRAILER BRAKES are the answer,80 to90 Percent of the trailers sold are sold for MONEY not CAPACITY or safety.Some dealers won't sell anything that are not Cookie cutter verity trls.

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Allan In NE

03-30-2006 15:43:01




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to massey333, 03-30-2006 15:12:53  
Are you talking about farm wagons? Heck yeah, they were all over the darned place.

Allan



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massey333

03-30-2006 16:38:58




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Allan In NE, 03-30-2006 15:43:01  
Yes farm wagons but with four wheel brakes,not surge but truck controlled and used to haul 50 100 200 mile hauls at 50 60 MPH.There was a man on the NTPA pull circuit that used a F250 and JD 963 wagon to haul his pulling tractor(4010)in the 70's.These were all highway legal wagons. I'am done.



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Jay (ND)

03-30-2006 12:08:02




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Allan In NE, 03-30-2006 09:44:50  
That's what I was thinking too. Regardless, you wouldn't catch me putting that much on it - not 'cause of the weight, but because of the way it's going to drive you.



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moseed

03-30-2006 13:54:19




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 Re: Trailer Question in reply to Jay (ND), 03-30-2006 12:08:02  
For what it's worth a two axle(5-6000 lbs per) single wheel set up is a much smoother ride and "ALL" your flats will be on the outside!



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