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Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks

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in-too-deep

03-27-2006 14:02:14




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I'd like to own a bucket truck someday for use on my future house. I was wondering what experiences you folks have had with buying old, retired trucks. I'd like to find one cheap because it won't be used extensivley, just a little personal work here and there. Could you ballpark a price range? I'd appreciate any information. Thanks.




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in-too-deep

03-28-2006 08:46:27




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
Thank you for all the information! I really appreciate you taking time to write.



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Billy NY

03-28-2006 05:13:12




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
We have a dealer of former fleet and utility trucks, some with buckets, others with post augers, they are usually under $10,000, some are heavy duty. I think the limitations on these are the working range, like was mentioned by having to move the truck and soft ground condtions, but probably still an inexpensive choice when having to reach areas up high. I've always wondered how the safety systems, hydrualics, and electrical systems hold up on these units, there are a lot of surplus of these around. Probably a good buy, as once a fleet dealer saturates an area, the prices drop.

I have extensively used just about the entire JLG line up of manlifts and scissor lifts. I've had many jobs with 5-6 various models in use for months at a time, including a few with several of the JLG 800 AJ's on site, which JLG calls an articulated manlift, it reaches 80 feet. They certainly save time and perform well, but still need hard level ground to work on. These are expensive to rent and or buy used, pre-owned ones, I would worry about the electric systems, more so on the scissor type lifts, all the pinch points. You can lift some things with these, we've done it, but really not worth the risk, and if you push it, you will blow out seals, as we tested the boundaries a bit, sometimes we needed to put a welder on a truck, so 5 feet up, a few hundred pounds, boom all the way in, no one in the basket, no problem for an 800 AJ, I think the platform on an 800 was rated for a 1000 lbs. Not sure what the guys did to blow a seal that day, couple hundred pounds a few feet up is one thing, probably best to just use them for their intended purpose. I had the biggest United Rentals could provide, brought into Manhattan in '03, it's listed in their booklet, a 250'-0" reach, truck mounted, over $2500.00 day + the operators pay, think they called it the brontosaurus, had to have my engineer do the math on the outriggers placement just to set it up, was a 3 story building under the street, had to locate the columns and displace the loads onto them. We had to get up close to 200 feet on a building to install architectural panels, the roof was a barrel vault so it was the only solution on this 10 story building. We used to set small scissor lifts with the crane on terraces and set backs to gain access to work areas, it's amazing what is out there today for high reach.

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JDknut

03-28-2006 03:42:05




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
We surplused one out here at work a few years ago. It was on a 1988 Ford F-350 truck with an IDI Diesel, would reach 30 ft. It was a little rusty, but other than that in good shape. It went for $2800 on a sealed bid, made someone a nice rig for painting houses or whatever. The new one we got in '98 was on an International 4700 with a Powerstroke Diesel, cost $97,000.



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K-Mo

03-27-2006 15:12:24




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
I have a Cox Cable Bucket Truck. It's a Ford E350 Van with a Dur-A-Lift boom bucket. I operates from 12 volt Hydraulic pumps (one low speed, one high speed) powered by 4 golf cart battteries. It also has a dynamo for 115 AC power to the bucket. It gets up to about 30-35 feet which is plenty high for my nerves. I use it for for gutters, painting, tree trimming, stringing power lines, picking cherries and installing a well pump. As with any piece of machinery, use with extreme caution. Many poeple have been seriously injured or killed with these machines.
Price will probably vary widely due to location and availablity. Try to find someone who deals in the resale of fleet vehicles. When the local cable company makes a new fleet buy, the old units should be available for a reasonable price by auction or through a reseller. Also check www.mtspbl.com .

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you

03-27-2006 14:58:10




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
I hear ya, like to find one myself.A lot of trucks were getting bought up pretty quick and heading for New Orleans for clean up etc. storm caused a demand....you kmow what happens to the prices.Good luck hunting , look them over good before ya buy.



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TomIN

03-27-2006 14:44:20




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
If you want to work up in the air, you might want to consider what my builder used. It was a lift truck that originally came from an airport. It was a box truck for delivery to planes on the runway. The box could be raised to the height of plane doors. The builder cut off the box, and was left with a flat floor about 8' x 20' that could be raised to second floor or roof height. He seemed to use it for everything from lifting trusses, deliverying material to the second floor and roof, installing siding on the second floor, etc. A platform is a heck of a lot more handy than a bucket.

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IaGary

03-27-2006 19:49:42




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to TomIN, 03-27-2006 14:44:20  
Tom you might be right if you can get right under were you want to go up but you can't reach out over shrubs,fences,up over roofs for trimming trees and get near as high.

I've used both and the flat bed is good for siding but when it comes to trimming trees cleaning eaves, repairing a steep roof you can move around more without moving the base.

If I can only have one or the other I'll take the bucket truck any time and you can still use it on the side walls.

About the only you can't do that the scissor hoist will do is lift a heavy load.

Just my thoughts. Gary

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BigMarv1086

03-27-2006 14:43:20




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 Re: Aerial Lift Bucket Trucks in reply to in-too-deep, 03-27-2006 14:02:14  
We had a 75 foot grove lift system on a ford 750 at work years ago. Sometimes it worked great and sometimes it would start jumping at about 40 foot. It would shake the basket 2 -3 foot. Scare you to death, just kept messing with it and eventually it would smooth up. They traded it in on 3 JLG 110 self propelled. The JLG's are smooth to operate.



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