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Anybody make their own biodiesel?

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OliverGuy

03-26-2006 06:32:07




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Was wondering if anybody makes their own biodiesel for their truck/tractors. I"ve seen the kits to buy or make your own. Anybody buy a good kit they would suggest? I"m not sure if finding the oil, transporting, buying the equip, etc. is still worth it. Thanks for your help.




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ncdiesel560

03-27-2006 14:30:23




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
try this website its another approach, www.frenchfriedrides.com



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MSD

03-26-2006 20:24:00




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
Was driving down the Interstate one day and it started smelling like someone was grilling. Smelled that way for a couple of miles and wondered where it came from. Finally caught up with a car that was smoking like a grill with steaks on it. He had a bumper sticker that said he was burning cooking oil. Made me hungry.



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barnrat

03-26-2006 15:46:50




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
My neighbor runs all his tractors/truck off processed biodiesel that he makes himself. In the summer he runs b100 and b70 with kerosene in the winter. He makes his biodiesel from waste vegatable oil and canola(rapeseed) that he grows and presses himself(the left over cake he feeds to his organic dairy cows) He uses what they call the Appleseed method. A used 80 gallon electric hot water heater being the major component of his processor. I'm in the process of building my own biodiesel processor I'm just lacking the used electric hot water heater, most hot water heaters around hear run on natural gas so a used electric one is hard to come by.

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mlm

03-26-2006 11:46:01




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
what do you mean by biodiesel? are you burning used cooking oil or are you going to do some processing? If you are just burning used cooking oil, I have see kits using home type water filter cartridges to keep filtering cost down. also need a fuel heater for the engine and two fuel tanks.
If I remember right, inline injection pumps and direct injection work best for used cooking oil.(need to double check this)

If you want to do some refining, check out greenrange energy.com like the previous post mentioned. also see journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.htm

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jdemaris

03-26-2006 09:21:40




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
A diesel will run on filtered oil without any added ingredients. That includes waste motor oil, cooking grease, etc. It needs to be filtered, and kept thin enough in cold weather. I think thinning it is the biggest problem, usually requires some sort of pre-heater. The first diesel engine that Rudolph Diesel created was run on pure peanut oil - not petroleum. Some of these kits I see are kind of hyped up and make money only for the people selling them. Biggest problem I see with using such things as waste deep-fryer oil from McDonalds, is there are too many people talking it up - and thus making a good thing on a small scale, unavailable or too expensive to mess with when demand for it grows. In Europe, it is now illegal unless the fuel tax is figured in and paid. If too many people do it here, the same thing will happen. I've been dumping my waste motor oil into my diesel tank for years and not had any problems.

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unioncreek

03-26-2006 08:16:45




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
The inital investment is less that $300, but most will only cost around $100. You can make it for less than $1 per gallon. Go to this webpage and start reading up on it. >Link
I'm>Link going to start making some this spring.

Bobg



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Tyler from UT

03-26-2006 06:56:59




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
When i first looked at it last september at the state fair it would have taken some rediculas amount of fuel and something of three years, before just getting close to pay for its self. Then you need ingredients to still make the stuff so i figured unless i was refulling a small army it wasent worth it. So if i was u figure out how much your going to use to see if its really worth it, far as a what kit they all seem to be really close to each other. Hope this helps.....

Tyler

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K-Mo

03-26-2006 06:52:38




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
Take a look at www.greenrangeenergy.com



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Glenn F.

03-26-2006 06:48:29




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to OliverGuy, 03-26-2006 06:32:07  
I know just about nothing about this topic, but just last week a guy was telling me of a fellow who runs his diesel truck on 100% veg. oil that has simply just been filtered. Nothing added, etc....? I didn't know that was posseble. Glenn F.



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Tom in TN

03-26-2006 18:59:52




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to Glenn F., 03-26-2006 06:48:29  
Glenn,

I've actually seen one truck running on used cooking oil. However, there's a whole lot more to the story. The guy collects the oil by hand-pumping it from a nasty barrel at a fast-food place into a big barrel that he hauls around in the back of his pickup. He then takes it home and drains it into a tank where he lets it sit for a couple of days to separate the solids from the oil. He then pumps the relatively clean oil off the top of the tank into another tank that is elevated. He lets it run out of the elevated tank into another tank through a filter that he has in the hose. He then pumps it into a second fuel tank that he has on the back of his pickup. He starts the engine of his pickup with diesel fuel and after the engine gets up to temperature, he switches over to cooking oil. To do that, of course, he has to have the second fuel tank in the back of his pickup, a second fuel line running to the front of the truck, a second fuel filter in the second line, an electrically operated valve that switches from the diesel fuel line to the cooking oil fuel line, and a switch in the cab to operate the valve. About every third or fourth load of oil that he brings home from the local restaurant, he has to scoop out the solid sludge from the settling tank and dispose of it at the landfill.

This guy is a "gadget-guy" so it's great for him, but there's no way I'd want to mess around with the whole thing.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

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edchainsaw

03-26-2006 19:15:01




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 Re: Anybody make their own biodiesel? in reply to Tom in TN, 03-26-2006 18:59:52  
the president of our local antique tractor club has a $100 VW rabbit he drives to work everyday (works for an Engineering school) he gets fastfood grease and does all the stuff you mentioned... and then filters in the rabbit
and has to have 2 tanks on the rabbit.. one with real diesel to get it started ... but he's happy.. and it stinks LOL



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