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Andyrk

03-25-2006 09:52:49




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Have a wisconsin VH4D that is on an old s/p haybine i bought last fall, the motor needed work soo i tore it apart and got it back together, just to run it for a while and realize the old stator/regulator system was all junk, soo i took it all off. built a bracket to fit an AC delco alternater on, put it on and rewired, to a point, have a regulater to wire in, and not quite sure where everything goes, i figured the obvious out, Ignition and battery, but as far as the fld and arm, im clueless, soo i ask, will this regulator work alone on the motor, or do i need to add a resister too? or what would be the simplest way to get this thing running soo i can mow hay in may. Any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.

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Bob

03-25-2006 10:39:51




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 Re: Wisconsin troubles in reply to Andyrk, 03-25-2006 09:52:49  
Andy,

If you do not already have one, get a Delco 10SI alternator with an INTERNAL regulator. They were used on GM pickups and cars from about 1974 to 1985, or thereabouts. They are available from "boneyards" for as little as $10.00, or rebuilt from $30.00 to $100.00.

Use a simple harness as shown in this picture to jumper the # 2 terminal over to the large output stud. Connect the large output stud to the battery (through an ammeter, if desired).

Then, run a wire from the #1 ("switched excite") terminal on the alternator to the coil side of the ignition switch.

To prevent the engine from continuing to run when the switch is shut "OFF", and to protect the guts of the alternator, you must install an "idiot light" (with a "194" bulb), or a diode (as shown in the photo)... 1N5008 works GREAT, or a resistor 10 Ohm, 10 Watt, I believe) in the lead to the ignition switch. (The cathode end of the diode, marked with the white band, goes towards the alternator's #1 terminal. The diode is shown "bare" for illustrative purposes, only. I cover them with 2 layers of heat-shrink tubing before installation to insulate them, and provide stiffness, to prevent the leads from flexing and breaking.)

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Some folks will tell you to get a one-wire, self-exciting alternator.

That is an aftermarket conversion of the alternator shown in the picture, with non-original changes to it's guts to eliminate the need for a wire to the #1 "switched excite" terminal.

You will likely pay MORE for the one-wire "aftermarket" alternator, it will not begin to charge at startup (until the engine is "revved"), and they are prone to draining the battery during periods of non-use, compared to an "OEM-type" standard 10SI. And, down the line, if it ever causes trouble, you need to remember it is an "oddball", and get another one-wire unit to replace it.

If the alternator you have differs from the picture, and is an older Delco requiring an EXTERNAL voltage regulator, and you want to use it, I can get you a diagram for that, too, but it's a lot more wiring to do, compared to the simple internally-regulated version.

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Andyrk

03-25-2006 10:44:40




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 Re: Wisconsin troubles in reply to Bob, 03-25-2006 10:39:51  
That is the alternater i have, off an 77 chev half ton, thanks for everything.



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Bob

03-25-2006 10:48:11




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 Re: Wisconsin troubles in reply to Andyrk, 03-25-2006 10:44:40  
Post back, and let us know how it works for you!

Pictures would be GREAT!



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