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Jak

01-14-2006 19:36:12




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6.5 turbo diesel's are junk!If you don't believe me then buy one.Deisel pickups are for the more financial better offs and over the road users peroid....Let all the blow hards talk all they want but take one of the 6.5 Chevs or a 7.3 ps to the shop and BEND OVER BUDDY,up the BUNGHOLE!!!!! I'll just drive a gasser,been there done that!Just price injectors,injector pumps,pmd's,and a new turbo and tell me I'm wrong.There better be some price reductions before I ever own one.Good evening people.Jack(TN).

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Bob

01-14-2006 20:17:04




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to Jak, 01-14-2006 19:36:12  
Jak,

I will agree that a 6.5TD is not the best choice if you need a truck for pulling a heavy trailer thousands of miles a year, for which maybe you should have bought a semi.

However, for a daily driver, I have a 1994 K-1500 6.5 4X4 that I bought used with about 54,000 miles on it when it was a couple of years old. It is now pushing 190,000 miles, and here's what I've had to replace:

2- air filters
2 or 3 fuel filters
2- repaired broken wire near EGR solenoid twice
1- serpentine belt
1- vacuum pump
1- brake master cylinder
1- set front brake pads
1- muffler hanger
1- turbo wastegate control solenoid
1- electric fuel pump
1- fsd = Fuel Solenoid Driver (I installed a used take-off unit of the updated version that I bought on ebay for about $20.00, and installed it on a LARGE heatsink I paid $5.00 for from a surplus place selling on the 'net. End of fuel system problems.)

I have not yet changed the injection pump, the injectors, or the glow plugs. I recently checked the GP's, and all were good. (The injection pump HAD been updated before I bought it, but it has gone over 136,000 miles without further trouble.)

The 4L80E transmission has never been touched, and it shifts as well as it ever did.

It does use a quart, or a bit more of oil bewtween (3000 mile) oil changes, though.

So, not EVERY 6.5 has been a nightmare!

And, there certainly have been some Navistar, Cummins, and Duramax engines that have cost their owners a few bucks, too!

Every brand has their good and bad points, and I don't see it as a mark of superior intelligence to bash ANY one brand over the other.

Vehicles have come so far in the last 30 or 40 years, that, in most cases, the worst vehicle a person is likely to get is still pretty good.

Of course, there are always hotshots who will beat a vehicle to death, install power chips to make it put out WAY more than the engineers ever intended, and then (FEMALE DOG) when something breaks, and quickly remove their little toy electronic boxes, then beg for warranty, and curse the manufacturer if they don't get it!

The thing that bugs me about the new diesels is that you have to buy such a heavy vehicle to order the diesel. For my use, a reasonably powered diesel 1/2 ton that got super mileage would be great, yet, nowadays to get a diesel you have to buy such a heavy pickup that the diesel's good mileage is reduced by the weight and frontal surface area of a BIG pickup.

You would think there would be some market for a lighter-duty unit, and the manufacturers would make them.

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thejdman01

01-15-2006 09:32:37




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to Bob, 01-14-2006 20:17:04  
Bob, if you compare the price of a 3/4ton compared to a 1/2 ton the trucks themselves there isnt a big price difference there really isnt esp for what you get beffier axle (usually 3/4 and 1 ton same axles) youg et ful floating axles etc) and its usually anly a few thousand dollars differnce in price for alot beffier truck.



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olderguy

01-14-2006 19:59:32




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to Jak, 01-14-2006 19:36:12  
Jak, Don't know much about 6.5,s but Powerstrokes do us very well expensive to fix-yes but major repairs have been few and far between.



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GY

01-14-2006 19:47:29




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to Jak, 01-14-2006 19:36:12  
Hey Jack,
Take a pill buddy, it will be ok! To start with they are not junk, I've got a 6.5 turbo in a 96 one ton that is running strong and I woldn't take for it. Powerstrokes on the other hand are not my cup of tea. you have your right to your own opinion however and thats cool. They are expensive to fix your right about that. good luck wiht your gassers have a great day



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thejdman01

01-15-2006 09:30:03




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to GY, 01-14-2006 19:47:29  
I have had 3 6.5's personally owned, and 6.2's never had a problem with them myself. Military runs them, and they really beat the stuff out of them, they are maintained well but how many humvees w/6.5's over there now running through sand and everything else. Dont hear anything about dismal performances and them rejecting huvees or humvees w/6.5's because of the performance. Must work well they keep using htem.

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Jak

01-15-2006 07:05:20




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 Re: I Can Tell Ya What! in reply to GY, 01-14-2006 19:47:29  
Ok,I took one,ha ha.I had a 97 dually with a 6.5 5 speed manual trans 4 door maroon that I really liked.I would still have it if the engine and components would hold up.Timing chain at 95000,three injection pumps,5 glow plugs and more.I spent in a year more on repair costs than the payments,insurance,and fuel combined.A buddy has a powerstroke that the wireing harness UNDER the valve cover shorted out,1500 bucks worth.Our 03 powerstroke has been in the shop upwards of eight times already,new turbo,new turbo inlet pipe and hose,new egr and line(under the turbo)running rough and loping at idle,and can't wait to see what else.I'll admit I like the torque and hearing the turbo spool up.Alrighty now,bye bye then.Jack

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