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JD H 46

01-13-2006 16:55:59




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I have a question. Why do tractor tires need to have tubes and cars no longer need them?




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buickanddeere

01-14-2006 06:57:03




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
Tubeless tires work fine on trtactors particularly is something like "wonder seal" is glopped inside. The "wonder seal" works better in a tubeless tire too. A tubeless tire can be repaired in a hurry during busy season with just a plug.



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DJM75

01-14-2006 06:19:20




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
The main reason they changed is tube type buile alot of heat at high speeds and heat kills tires so they don"t have that long of life then. with cars on interstates going 65-75 these days its not practical for tube tires but great for tractors.



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RN

01-13-2006 19:12:41




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
Tractor tires run maybe 15+- lbs pressure and flex, need tube to hold air when tire flexs around bead. Tubeless car tires run 30 lbs + pressure, don't flex as much. When car tires are run at low pressure they can fail- remember Ford Explorer tire problems when they ran at 25lbs for soft ride instead of tire manufacturers recommended 32 to 35 lbs? Light trucks- I used to run 45 lbs in Chev c30 empty, 55 a couple times with overload. Tires were marked with load rateings to 60lbs. What pressure are you running in tires?? Wet- with fluid? RN.

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old

01-13-2006 18:27:56




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
The other guy hit on some of the points as to why. Heres another one. Have you ever looked close at a tractor rim and a car rim?? They are made differant. Most tractor rims if you mount a tire on them with out a tube will not hold air for more then a few hours because most have rivits not welds. Also the ones with welds just plain aren't made for tubeless mounting



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Leland

01-13-2006 18:25:44




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
The nice thing about tube tires is that if you get in a bind on uneven ground and have a rock or stump pushing on side of tire the bead won't pop and deflate tire like a tubeless tire would .



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PeteNY

01-13-2006 17:03:37




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to JD H 46, 01-13-2006 16:55:59  
You can go tubeless if you want, but your rim needs to be perfect so you can get a seal, and if you use your tires under hard conditions, it is much cheaper to patch or replace a tube and even if needed patch the tire.



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JD H 46

01-13-2006 17:18:04




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to PeteNY, 01-13-2006 17:03:37  
Thanks. I not looking to get new tires, I was just curious.



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jkw

01-13-2006 17:16:28




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to PeteNY, 01-13-2006 17:03:37  
Just put new fronts on the little cub and ordered the tires and tubes . When the young guy went to install them he said you dont need the tubes, I thought I needed them but I didnt know why so we asked the owner of the shop (old timer) and he said you need the tubes because tractors are parked a lot and tubless go flat if there not used .



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504

01-13-2006 19:52:05




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to jkw, 01-13-2006 17:16:28  
If you go and look at a new tractor they are tubless. But the thing is you need tubless tires and rims that are made for tubless tires,tubless rims have an extra roll on the bead to keep the tire from popping off the rim when turning, and on side loads. BTW when a tire comes off the rim most of the time it falls in, looses air and then runs off the rim on the outside.



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Tx Jim

01-14-2006 03:34:34




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 Re: Tractor and Car Tires in reply to 504, 01-13-2006 19:52:05  
I have all tires mounted on both my tractors that I farm with without tubes with no problems. One is a '81 Ford 5610 and the other is a '91 JD 4255. I don't like tubes. Tx Jim



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