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needed cutting edge for dirt scoop

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4020

01-01-2006 19:33:08




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I have a Midland Manufactureing company dirt scoop and i need new cutting edges. The scoop measures 6ft 4in wide. The box is 2ft 5in tall and 5ft long. The tag has been tore off so we don't have a serial # or any other information for it. The cutting edges on it have been modified and were not intended to be use on this implement. If anyone knows where I can get new edges for this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for any info. you may have.

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R. John Johnson

01-02-2006 07:06:24




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to 4020, 01-01-2006 19:33:08  
If you can't find what you need at the local welding shop, try to find the nearest large steel supplier. Central Steel is one that comes to mind. They sell cutting edges for weld on replacement. If memory serves me right you will need C1060 steel. It welds very well with 7018 rods. Do not use C1080 steel. It was not ment to be welded and was used for bolt on blades. This doesn't mean it can't be done, just that it was not what it was intended for in a manufacturing enviroment.

One other option is to go to any implment dealer and purchase a cutting edge for one of their buckets. You should be able to adapt something to your bucket.

One last thing. When you weld on a new cutting edge, stagger where you weld, allowing the welds to cool in between. I used to work in a manufacturing enviroment and when we built buckets , weld warpage was a real concern. They were using wirefeed welders and would put a lot of heat into a bucket as it was welded. Can't remember which, but the cutting edge would warp either into a smile or a frown. To counteract this the weld fixture bent the bucket into a reverse shape. The welds would distort it and cancel out the pre "bow" and the cutting edge would be straight.

hope this helps.

John

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Keith-OR

01-01-2006 21:13:07




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to 4020, 01-01-2006 19:33:08  
Try your state or county highway department, see if they have any take offs from a road grader. This is what I used on my bucket and scarper box..HTH

Keith & Shawn



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Bob

01-01-2006 20:04:05




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to 4020, 01-01-2006 19:33:08  
A local welding shop has several syles of cutting edge in stock in long lengths, and will cut off what you want.

Have you checked with welding or machine shops or new steel outlets in your area?



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4020

01-01-2006 20:28:20




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to Bob, 01-01-2006 20:04:05  
Thats what we have been doing. Just thought we might try doing it correct for a change,ha'ha. Thanks for the reply.



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Don-WI

01-02-2006 09:44:23




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to 4020, 01-01-2006 20:28:20  
That's about as correct as you can get. Is it supposed to be bolt on or weld on? Bent on the corners or straight? If there are any bends, have a weld shop that has it in stock bend it up for you. Donovan from Wisconsin



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4020

01-02-2006 20:46:25




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to Don-WI, 01-02-2006 09:44:23  
The cutting edges are three different bolt ons. the two outside pieces bolt on and bend up at outside edge. Center part is a flat piece that sticks out front 4 or 6 inches. I call it a frost bit.I have been welding on new edges or blowing new holes in new edges to make it work for years.I guess thats what I will have to do again.Thanks for the ideals.



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Don-Wi

01-03-2006 16:04:58




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 Re: needed cutting edge for dirt scoop in reply to 4020, 01-02-2006 20:46:25  
Any shop would be able to drill or punch holes in a new edge if you want them to, you would justr need the dimensions between the holes and how far in. Every few years a foundry we do work for has us make about 10 new cutting edges for their payloader, we've got a drill jig that we clamp it onto so all the holes are located in the exact same spot without having to layout each peice.
For just a few holes, I can'[t imaging it taking them more than 1/2 hr.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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