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O/T Macadam Driveways

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Christos

12-30-2005 19:38:32




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Out of curiosity - does anybody have a Macadam Driveway and/or at least built one? The driveway to my house is shot and I figured by replacing it with a Macadam one it would last longer and wear better. I was going to build it by using my 135 and a angle blade (yet to be bought)and in standard macadam fashion with the progressively smaller rocks but with the top course made out of Asphalt millings from the local highway department I was figuring I could get some for next to nothing and it would be a decent alternative to putting in a plain gravel, asphalt or concrete driveway all of, except the gravel one, require zoning permits of some sort in my hometown.

Christos

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cornfarmer

12-31-2005 20:17:15




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to Christos, 12-30-2005 19:38:32  
I have built several gravel drives over the years that were built to handle everything up to and including loaded semi trucks. Current practice (instead of layers of increasingly larger rock from top to bottom) is to use only CA-6 (or roadpack). The name may vary, but the spec should tell your pit what you want. This is a fairly small rock with a specified % of fines. Spread and pack it while it is damp. Drives made this way hold up much better in the spring because everything tends to hold together. If you still want to use layers of rock, put a geotextile fabric or plastic netting down first. This will help prevent the first layer from sinking.

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Jim in N M

12-30-2005 20:27:06




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to Christos, 12-30-2005 19:38:32  
HI, My experance with asphalt millings is the best time to lay it down is in the warm weather,BUT it needs to be graded flat and than rolled with a heavy roller to pack it down,we use a lot of it here and if its not packed good it will rut like soft gravel another thingt,if it sits in a pile to long it will chunk up and its hell to break up and get it loose enough to work with. just my .02cts worth. Jim in N M

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CRUSADER

12-30-2005 21:49:22




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to Jim in N M , 12-30-2005 20:27:06  
Hey Jim in NM,

How's things there in New Mexico? I left Clovis to go to Kunsan on 8 Sep. Have ya'll had any snow yet?

Jim



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KEG

12-30-2005 19:56:54




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to Christos, 12-30-2005 19:38:32  
Here's a thought. I have a steep hill that was originally covered with 2" minus limestone. but it turned into a loose mess. Had a contractor tell me to use "pug mill". So he hauled in several loads, packed it down and it is like solid rock! He said the "pug mill" is limestone that is wetted down. Probably 1/2" minus rock, but because it was wet when he installed it, it packed solid. You do have to pay for the extra weight because you are hauling a lot of water with each load since it is so wet, but it acts like concrete once it is in-place and I'm sold. I'll probably chip & seal over it in the spring/summer, but until then it looks like it will hold up for a very long time. Anyone else heard of using "pug mill"?

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720Deere

01-01-2006 14:16:26




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to KEG, 12-30-2005 19:56:54  
I think what you have is crusher run material that is run through a pug mill. This gives a better gradation of the material and sometimes they will also add calcium chloride to the mix. This along with the proper amount of moisture usually makes a real tight stone base when it sets up.



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JDknut

12-31-2005 07:02:38




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 Re: O/T Macadam Driveways in reply to KEG, 12-30-2005 19:56:54  
I never heard of it being called "pug mill". Up here, a pug mill is the part of the asphalt plant where they mix the stone and asphalt cement. In these parts, they call the material you refer to "runnercrush", which is basically 2" or 3/4" minus (depending on how you order it) crusher run limestone. Here, the limestone is dolomite that is hard enough for the state DOT to allow it for high friction top course, so it doesn't cement as well as you say, but it still makes a good top course. But, for a driveway in snow country it does complicate snow blowing, you have to build a base of packed snow, so the little stones won't get in the snowblower and break the shear pin.

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