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Daniel Chestnut

12-26-2005 15:20:24

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I"m looking for a good used Dodge 1500 truck. I"ve got a 1995 Chevy S-10 and I"m wanting to upgrade. I"ve been looking at a 2004 Dodge 1500, has the 4.7 liter V-8 engine, 4 wheel drive, automatic, quad cab, short bed, white, has almost 44,000 miles, has good tires. If I take the truck, it will have a towing package included in the deal. Most of the time, I"ll be pulling a 6 1/2 by 12 single axle trailer with probably 3 Cub Cadets on it. My grandfather has a double axle trailer that weighs about 2,000 pounds that I could pull if the truck will handle it. I"m wanting to know if I could pull this trailer with a Farmall H on it? I figure an H weighs around 4 to 4,500 pounds. Dodge literature says for a truck like this, maximum payload is 1,530 pounds and maximum trailer weight is 7, 150 pounds. Also says the 4.7 V-8 has 235hp @4,400 rpm and 300 pounds-ft @ 3,500 rpm. The Dodge guy I"m dealing with says the truck will handle it with no problem. I would mostly be pulling it on two lane roads with some hills. Where I mainly haul to there is two good size hills between home and there. If I can pull grandfathers trailer okay, I can haul 7 Cub Cadets on it. Might also haul my McCormick Deering W-4 or my JD B on it. Probably won"t pull the bigger tractors around with it very much. I"m just not sure if the 4.7 V-8 will pull it with no problems or if I should wait and find a truck like this with the 5.7 liter V-8. Hopefully someone has a truck like this that pulls a trailer with tractors. Thanks in advance.

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JoeinTX

12-27-2005 23:45:33

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

I've had both the 4.7 and the 5.7 in a half ton, so here's my $.02 worth.

The 4.7 is a better motor than most older small V-8s from 10-20 years ago. Roughly similar to the 318, but better than the 305 or 302..... I had/drove all three at one time or another. It'll downshift on grades and make a lot of noise in passing situations but, hey, it's still a small V-8.

The 5.7 Hemi is the true follow-on to the Vortec 350 in terms of performance. Imagine the late model 350s with a little extra pop and that's what this motor is.

The big difference here is mileage. Having both engines in nearly identical vehicles the mpg difference is nearly unnoticeable. Uphill, downhill, hot or cold, headwind, tailwind....I see about 17-18 mpg out of each in normal highway driving.

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Mike M

12-27-2005 12:05:07

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

Don't know about the 4.7 ? But if your going to haul much,sounds like you have bigger tractors in the works,I'd get a 2500 model(bigger brakes) and if you find one with the 360 gas these are real good.

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Polish Mike

12-27-2005 11:41:04

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

Daniel: That truck will handle the weight OK...Might breath a bit heavy on some of the hills, but it'll do just fine.

What I don't see ANYBODY telling you, though, is to have a good brake box installed in the trailer harness, and decent brakes on the trailer. Trying to stop that truck at maximum towing capacity with no trailer brakes is not something you want to do too often. You WILL experience brake fade at some point.

That said, with good brakes on the trailer, you'll do just fine with the Dodge.

Good luck.

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evilboweviel

12-27-2005 07:08:22

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

I have a 2004 Dodge 1500 ram, 8' bed, two wheel drive, trailer towing package, automatic, reg cab. 7000 lb Brewster trailer tandam axle, brakes both axles, equalizer hitch with swaybar. Bought a cub loboy with 1000 loader, 2 fast hitch 59 mowers in New York over 500 miles one way. On two lane roads running 50mph pulled nice fuel around 14mpg. On four lane interstate running 80mph had power to spare and got around 12 mpg. This is running with the towing switch engaged locking out the overdrive.
Can't say enough good things about this truck, HIGHLY recomend it.
Ron

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DoubleR

12-27-2005 05:51:44

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

I brought a 02 Dodge like you discribe new in 02. I've pulled my 6 by 10 enclosed trailer with my Goldwing to Fl. from Mich three times with no problem. I got about 11.3 mi per gallon average. I pull a 16 ft livestock trailier on 120 mi round trips to the stock yards with as much as 5,000 lbs of beef on board. I have a 16ft flat bed tantum trailer that I've hauled as much as 7,000 lbs on local trips around home. I've pulled 125bu loaded grain wagons on 25mi round trips to the elevator. I've hauled loaded hay wagons with 150 bales on board on local trips around home. With 52,000 miles, probaly 30,000 of it pulling something, I've yet to do anything to it other than oil changes. I get about 10-12 miles per gallon pulling. About 15- 16miles per gallon when I'm not. I'm happy with the truck for what its worth.

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dhermesc

12-27-2005 05:51:21

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

15 years ago you would have had to buy a 3/4 ton to get that kind of tow rating and buy a Ford with a 460 or a Chevy with 454 to get as much power a little more torque. That engine puts out more hp and torque then the old Ford 351 or the Chevy 350 did then. If you are only going to tow the H occassionally I would allow a little extra time for trips and buy exactly what you're getting.

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Tim...Ok

12-27-2005 05:18:04

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

Daniel, If you plan on pulling ANYTHING,pass up the 4.7 .. My wife drives a crewcab 1500 with the 4.7 and 5-speed.. I've got a 12 foot single axle utility trailer,thats a pretty good load for the truck,when it's empty.. that is a good little engine,but it's power it made WAY to high in the RPM range,just the opposite of what you want for pulling..If I got anything on the trailer,forget about 5th gear,not gonna happen.. I can't imagine pulling a cub with it,and no way pull an H..

Tim

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JDknut

12-27-2005 03:45:28

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

The Dodge is a good truck if you go for either the Hemi or the Cummins. The Cummins is better, but if you want the half ton, go for the Hemi, as this is the best gas engine available in anything today (except maybe the big block Chevy but that comes in the heaqvy duty truck and would burn too much gas for you). The only thing is it likes its gas, but it does have the glands to pull anything that a half-ton has the right to pull.

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doodelbug

12-26-2005 19:36:46

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

i had the exact truck and hauled a farmall h from kansas to texas 2 times. also did it in one with the 5 speed manual. the automatic was constantly shifting, the standard i could hold in 4 th gear and was better. fuel milage was 8 mpg at best on both.this was going south on I35 from south kansas to dallas area.decided if i was going to keep on doing this type of towing i needed a cummins. now its 18 towing and 21 empty. i did add a chip to the diesel and make some other adjustments to the exhaust.

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Mr Bill No. Mn.

12-26-2005 19:35:39

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

You would be better off with a ford f250 super duty .Then you won"t have any problems.

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colekicker

12-26-2005 21:54:57

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Mr Bill No. Mn., 12-26-2005 19:35:39

Ya, Mr Bill, he'd have no problems towing anything b/c the ford would be in the shop all the time being repaired. Stick with a Dodge. 6 in a row is the way to go. Just remember, its better to have more than enough truck than not enough truck at all.

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ustabfarmer

12-26-2005 17:48:57

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to Daniel Chestnut, 12-26-2005 15:20:24

Hey Daniel! I don't think you should have any problem pulling up to an H. I pulled a F-20 from Nebraska to Alabama with my Dakota tha t had the 4.7. Had enough power plus it was a 5 speed manual tranny. Only thing was that there was a lot of "push" with that small a truck. Have since upgraded to a 3500 6speed dually diesel. Love it. Pull 10000#s plus the trailer (2890#s) with no problem. Hope this helps. Happy New Year,Les

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

12-27-2005 13:40:33

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Re: 2004 Dodge 1500 truck in reply to ustabfarmer, 12-26-2005 17:48:57

I had one for 50,000 miles and liked it very well. Mine had the 5.2 liter motor and was a little under powered for a 24 ft travel trailer. I hauled a 6500 lb. tractor with it but it would light up the heat gauge while starting from a stop on a hill. I always felt that the tempory over heating wasn't doing my automatic tranny any good. Fuel milage was a lot better without the overdrive while hauling. No comparison to my 7.3 Powerstroke in hauling.

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