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GM atlernator for tractor

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INcase

12-12-2005 08:43:19




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Question: I have a 1985 chevy caprice alternator (free) that I would like to put on my Case 730. It has the large post for charging output but also has a 2 wire wireharness with 1, white and 1 red wire molded together. What do the red & white wires do and where do they need to be hooked up? Thanks!




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John T

12-12-2005 10:05:50




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 Re: GM atlernator for tractor in reply to INcase, 12-12-2005 08:43:19  
IN, In addition to the good advice below, I additionally use and recommend a 10 ohm current limiting protection safety resistor in that excitation voltage circuit that wires from a switched battery voltage source (such as the Ignition switches IGN output terminal that wires to the ignition coil etc) to the alternators lil No. 1 side excitation terminal ESPECIALLY if you only use a diode and not an idiot charge indicator light. (Depending upon an idiot light bulbs resistance if you used one, you may not even need any other resistor or diode???) If you dont use an idiot light but the 10 ohm resistor I recommend in the excitaiton circuit and should the engine still run on even after the ignition is switched off, then you would need to add the diode (one way current flow check valve). Often the use of the resistor or idiot light may make the diode not even needed. (it will stop any run on problem)

Ive seen them wired direct with no resistors and without any idiot lights that worked just fine while others had to have the diode to prevent run on. Im a strong believer in an ounce of protection is worth more then a pound of cure and as an added safety feature I use the 10 ohm current limiting safety resistor myself, but its your tractor and your choice.

John T PS this is for a GM 10SI 3 wire alternator, dotn forget it requires NEGATIVE GROUND !!!

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Bob

12-12-2005 09:09:06




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 Re: GM atlernator for tractor in reply to INcase, 12-12-2005 08:43:19  
The alternator's case is labeled "1" and "2". where the little harness plugs in.

Jumper the lead from # 2 over to the large output stud. (Going all the way to the (+) battery cable with that lead gives better regulation of voltage at the battery, but is not absolutely necessary on an old tractor.) Connecting it to the output stud will work fine.

Connect switched power from the key switch to the #1 terminal, with a diode, or a #194 bulb "idiot light" in that line. A 1N5006 or 1N5008 diode is a good choice. The white-banded "cathode" end of the diode goes towards the #1 terminal.

Bob Melville, over on the Farmall board, has a bunch of GREAT diagrams for IH conversions, there should be one that will work for your Case:

Link


Also, Mad Electrical has a helpfull tech section on their site. It is geared to the "hot rod" crowd, but is just as usefull with these old tractor conversions:


http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical-tech.shtml

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Dixieland

12-12-2005 09:01:13




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 Re: GM atlernator for tractor in reply to INcase, 12-12-2005 08:43:19  
Copied from a previous post!

the # 1 terminal is the relay term.the #2 terminal is the field terminal and should be hooked to the ignition switch.the # 1terminal should be jumpered to the output terminal.without a diode or idiot light in the ignition circuit,the motor would not turn off,since when the alt.is charging the 1 and 2 circuits are connected and power is fed back into the ignition.once the alt.is excited it will continue to charge even with the key off,until the alt.stops turning

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Keith-OR

12-12-2005 10:48:48




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 Re: GM atlernator for tractor in reply to Dixieland, 12-12-2005 09:01:13  
DL, you need to check your info,Bob has it correct. #2 is hooked direcrly to the alternator output (Large unmarked post on back of alternator) #1 goes either to acc. on ign. switch, or lite or with a diode in line. If one choses to use diode it will not keep running once power to ign is shut off. I have a Ford 640 that has been wired w/diode for 20 years....JMO

Keith



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