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TGIN

12-05-2005 04:02:52




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I`m thinking of adding a 100 hp.tractor to the lot . Avalable money puts it a 1970s model . I`ve always been a farmall man so I look at the 856s . I had a 1030 case one time and liked it so was thinking about a 1070 . I`ve spent several hours on a 5000 rowcrop ford but dont think I`ve ever seen a 8000 around here . AC 200 Plowed with one for a afternoon on time along time ago dont remember much .How about the 1855 Oliver , Had a 1650 yrs. ago . This tractor will be used to pull a round baler most of the time so It cant be to clumsy wich I remember the 1030 being . What is your vote and why . I`ve been redoing a hayfield or 2 a yr. and want alittle more hp. than I got now {70} .

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Robhkent

12-05-2005 11:32:48




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
I run a new holland baler with an 856, plenty of power and weight, (SW IA rolling hills). shifting is OK, you do need to watch out for the TA. The one in mine is out, I leave it on the high side and everything works fine. I know nothing about the Masseys, the 1070 is a good machine. I would stay away froma 4230 though, ggod tractor, plenty of power and weight, their bog problem though is to small of a clutch, and with the amount of clutching using a baler...

My opinions, take them for what they are worth.

Rob

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Case Lady

12-05-2005 07:34:17




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
These are all a little smaller that what you are looking at but I have driven a Ford 5000 and a IH 986 and 1086 since I was big enough to push the clutch in while holding onto the steering wheel and we have JD 4050's now. The Ford is the easiest to figure out as far as gears - pretty basic and simple; the IH's both were tough tractors, but if the TA started giving you problems, it was a bear to fix and sometimes they would get stuck in gear, but a very long screwdriver and a lot of patience and you could fix it, the JD quad range is pretty easy to use and the quik shift on the other one is really easy, but if you don't watch it, you will bounce your head off the window. We have had very little problems out of the JD's as far as the gears go, just general maintenance and upkeep expenses there, but the Ford is my favorite. Hope this info helps! CL

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JMS/MN

12-05-2005 08:18:05




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to Case Lady, 12-05-2005 07:34:17  
Noticed your comment about head-banging with the JD Power Shift- 1967, first time I drove a 4020 PS, neighbor instructed me to disregard the knob- keep the hand against the rail and just move the lower part of the lever with the fingers. Feathering the clutch makes for a smooth shift, especially 3 to 4 or 7 to 8. The 15 speed on the 50 Series has only half the speed change between gears.



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CL

12-05-2005 08:51:05




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to JMS/MN, 12-05-2005 08:18:05  
yep, feathering the clutch does help as does just using the tips of fore finger and thumb on the shifting lever, but sometimes I just am not coordinated enough to get all that together along with raising the tail gate, dumping out the bale, making sure the gate gets locked and the feeder doesn't get balled up.....thus, a good head smack brings it all back into focus.....



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barnrat

12-05-2005 06:59:31




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
I grew up with John Deere have used and currently have several different 20 series John Deeres, they are good tractors. I have also used several diferent IH tractors from the 56 and 66 series, these are also good tractors. I find Deeres to be quite pricey now days for what you get. IH's seems to be hard on fuel and seem to be always a little light. I recently jumped colors and bought a Massey 1130(120hp) for $4900 and I love it. It's got more gears then Deere, but controls are laid out well like Deere's, service points and fuel tanks are more convient then any tractor. Pulls like an IH but is built heavier. Also it uses less fuel then my 4020. I would highly recomend a Massey 1100 or 1105 for your situation

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730 virgil

12-05-2005 09:03:34




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to barnrat, 12-05-2005 06:59:31  
one of my farmer friends has told me he can't afford to buy parts for his massey tractors anymore . says ih stuff is cheaper to keep running . he has 2-1155 or 1155 and 1105? i don't remember which ; he has always liked the massey tractors and the perkins engines



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barnrat

12-05-2005 12:01:09




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to 730 virgil, 12-05-2005 09:03:34  
You could be right. I'm doing the brakes right now on my Massey and most of the parts I've order show up in less then 24 hours. And so far it's gonna cost about the same as the brake job I did on my 4020. IH does have an extensive amount of aftermarket parts available which also may help bring down parts cost.



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muggsw6

12-05-2005 06:16:12




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
Be hard to go wrong with 856 or maybe 966/1066. If you've spent time on 06-66 IH the shifting won't be too big of a deal.my .02



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ChrisLSD

12-05-2005 05:02:23




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
a 4230 is a lot newer than 856 -
we have an 806 and had a 1066 - if you need to be shifting all the time the newer the better
the 1066 we had was not clumsy - and would have a lot of power - not hard on fuel either
plus there a LOT of 1066's out there - ours was a '74 - white cab - I think forst was the red cab then the '75 were the black stripe ones



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mjbrown

12-05-2005 04:17:31




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to TGIN, 12-05-2005 04:02:52  
I like deere tractors because the control layouts in the era you are talking about were the best in the business. I have a 4230 and always enjoy useing it. Lots of power and user friendly controls.



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KRUSS

12-05-2005 06:19:49




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 Re: Opinions Please in reply to mjbrown, 12-05-2005 04:17:31  
A 1070 would fill the bill, around here you could get two of them for the price of a 4230. 1070 is easy on fuel as well.



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