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Tractor for Hay Rides

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TwinCreek

11-28-2005 10:31:36




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Does anyone have an opinion on what tractor I should use for hay rides on my tree farm. I have some hills to contend with so I need good safe brakes. Currently I own a John Deere 4100 compact and a MM 5 Star. The 5 Star dosent seem to have real great brakes and is a little large for me, plus the amplitorque is questionable. Thanks for your opinions!




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Dave H (MI)

11-28-2005 19:10:53




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to TwinCreek, 11-28-2005 10:31:36  
I work at a park nearby in the fall giving hayrides....lots and lots of hayrides. When I pull with a tractor it is a fairly new green and yeller thing. So unappealing to me that I cannot remember the model. We also pulled with horses.
You could have the entire wagon loaded with people behind the JD and if the horse wagon pulled up they would all get off and switch to it.
Get a good sound team of Belgians and your customers will go nuts for a ride.

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fixerupper

11-28-2005 19:41:31




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to Dave H (MI), 11-28-2005 19:10:53  
I second that! We have horse drawn trolleys at the show, but we used to pull one with a tractor if we were short of horses. If a horse drawn trolley and a tractor drawn trolley would meet, everyone on the tractor one would be yelling to stop so they could get on the horse one. Of course the horse people know the importance of good brakes on the people mover. Jim



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Bob M

11-28-2005 17:52:07




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to TwinCreek, 11-28-2005 10:31:36  
We run a variety of tractors for the hayride at the "choose and cut" tree farm I've worked at for many years. A few observations:

1 - More important than being able to pull up your steepest incline is being able to STOP the wagon at any point going back down! Consequently the heavier the tractor the better. 2 - Obviously brakes must be in top notch condition. And if you must deal with snow (we do...) tire chains are a must.

3 - The less noise the tractor makes the better. Customers like to be able to talk with each other, and field hands must be able to communicate with customers and tractor drivers. Also some small kids are frightened by loud exhaust.

4 - In our operation the tractor drivers are on/off their machines literally hundreds of times a day, helping customers load trees and unload again at the end. Consequently easier it is to mount/dismount the tractor the easier it is on the driver.

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We operate with several JD A's, a 3020, a pair Farmalls (an SH and an SM), a pair of Minnie Mo's (a U and a G) and a Case 500, with a JD 5410 4x4 held in reserve.

The 2 cylinder Deere's are OK but they are loud all the time. The other tractors are much quieter - especially when descending and at idle. The Minnies are nice because they have low platforms and they are hand clutched. It's a single step to get on and off 'em (vs a 3 step climb onto the others). And they can easily (and safely) be driven standing up.

The 3020 and 5410 I like on account of the "park" postions on their transmissions - they don't depend on friction brakes and rachet latches to hold the tractor on an incline when the driver must leave the seat.

Punch below for a few photos from our 2004 season.

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Jeff Carey

12-25-2005 19:17:04




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to Bob M, 11-28-2005 17:52:07  
Bob M or others in this exchange: I am looking for a hayride wagon for my MH Pony and admired the wagons in your pictures. Do you build your own or can you reference a supplier? Thanks.



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fixerupper

11-28-2005 17:29:08




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to TwinCreek, 11-28-2005 10:31:36  
Here's something I really do know something about. I've spent many, many hours driving a tractor pulling a people mover at a threshing show and a band on a bundle rack in parades over a span of 15 years. First, you want good SMOOTH brakes,and you need a smooth clutch that is not too stiff, this is where the hydrostat would be real nice. People don't like to be jerked around and this is a liability thing because someone might be standing up when you take off or stop. It's nice to have a quiet tractor so you can hear someone yell. If the tractor has a cab, the back window is to be open at all times so the tractor driver can hear someone yell. You just can't be looking ahead and watching the passengers at the same time. Had a near miss once when one of the drivers had the rear window closed and couldn't hear someone yell when she wanted off so she tried getting off on-the-go and almost was run over. Having an assistant ride back there is a real plus too. Today the liability thing is real important. Joking around with the riders (clean) helps too. Jim

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BobinKY

11-28-2005 17:17:04




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to TwinCreek, 11-28-2005 10:31:36  
I have a Kubota four-wheel drive compact tractor (3830) that works very well. I have some really serious hills on my farm and I have never had a problem. When I lock it into four-wheel drive, it crawls up and down the hills without grunting.



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Ranger John

11-28-2005 10:44:13




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 Re: Tractor for Hay Rides in reply to TwinCreek, 11-28-2005 10:31:36  
I would think that if possible I would use something with a Hydrostatic. That way you would use less brakes.

One thing to consider is increasing your liability insurance. I was talking to my insurance guy about parades and shows. He told me my regular liability insurance from my property would not cover the parades or show activities.



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