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wide front end conversion

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anthony kretowi

11-27-2005 14:35:07




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how hard is it to change from a narrow front end to a wide? I have a 1940 John Deere B, and have a 1952 JD B parts tractor with a wide front end on it. Will the 1952 wide bolt on to the 1940 without fabrication, or is it a bolt on affair? Thanks much.




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farmerboy

11-28-2005 06:15:45




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to anthony kretowicz, 11-27-2005 14:35:07  
You could always fix up the 1952 unit. It's a much better machine anyhow.

A 1952 B has a split pedestal whereas a 1940 B has a solid pedestal. "Split pedestal" means the front end bolts onto the bottom of the steering post. A solid pedestal has the steering post solid from the gearbox at the top to the tires at bottom. If you had a 1939-1946 wide front, you would be able to change out the entire unit with a lot of labor but no mods. However, I'm fairly certain a 1952 will not bolt up to a 1940 without modification and a lot of cussing.

In good condition, that wide front is too valuable to do a lot of torching and welding on it.

Good luck whatever you do.

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anthony kretowicz

11-28-2005 15:00:32




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to farmerboy, 11-28-2005 06:15:45  
Thanks for all the replies, guys. I guess I"ll wait on this job and keep her the way she is. Again, thank you for the advice, and have a very happy and safe holiday season



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John in Md.

11-27-2005 16:04:59




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to anthony kretowicz, 11-27-2005 14:35:07  
Unless you have a two piece frontend they're not the same thing .The 40 had a one piece (anteater) frontend not the later split pedestal.



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Island A

11-27-2005 15:10:46




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to anthony kretowicz, 11-27-2005 14:35:07  
You will have to use the split pedestal from the 1952 B, but yes, you should be able to do it. It should bolt right up.

I think....
=)

Dave



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Myrl (PA)

11-27-2005 16:07:09




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to Island A, 11-27-2005 15:10:46  
I dont think so Dave. I think the 40 B has a cast steel frame and the 50 B has a pressed steel frame and I believe the bolt pattern is different but not sure.



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Myrl (PA)

11-27-2005 15:45:09




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to Island A, 11-27-2005 15:10:46  
I dont think so Dave. I think the 40 B has a cast steel frame and the 50 B has a pressed steel frame and I believe the bolt pattern is different but not sure.



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Island A

11-28-2005 09:30:03




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 Re: wide front end conversion in reply to Myrl (PA), 11-27-2005 15:45:09  
I don"t know, I seem to recall the split pedestal being offered as a seperate assembly for converting older tractors. I really don"t know the true answer. The best way to find out is to measure the units.

Time to buy a parts book!

Dave



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