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are there any real trucks left?

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johndeerejon

11-24-2005 15:28:27




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I hate to go off the deep end, but does anyone else think they don't make em like they use too? I don't need a surbanite truck, I need a real truck! I have been wanting to get rid of my 1997 chevy because i'm tired of getting stuck when the 4x4 fuse blows or the vacuum line(s) come loose! The only truck I have found that still has mechanical linkage that goes from the handle to the transfer case is the toyota. I like the tacoma with the 2.7 and the 5 speed but I want to know what you folks think! My research shows the tacoma get about 21 mpg highway, and their reliability is great, from what I know. I don't want a full sized truck because I already have a 1980 3/4 ton 4x4 camper special chevy that I have built to be bullit-proof.

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Jim K

11-25-2005 06:15:57




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
I have an "02" F=350 Super Duty 1-ton dual wheel dump. It has the 7.3 ltr. diesel 4 wheel drive auto trans W/manual transfer case (lever on the floor) and manual hubs. (you gotta get out and lock em by hand). With a solid front axle. Also has a 9ft minute mount plow. I live in New England. and I wouldn't own anything but manual hubs and transfer case. I don't mind getting out to lock the hubs, at least I know that It's in four wheel drive. I haven't had a lick of trouble with this truck It rides like a truck, but has a compliant suspension.
As far as I'm concerned If you want a real truck that's still made today, get a Ford or Dodge.
I'm not knockin Chevys cause I plow at a hospital here in Ma. with an "05" Chevy 3/4 ton pickup with the big block and this truck takes a beatin, the ride is very car like and you don't have to jump up to get in it, but it has a manual transfer case w/ the auto front ead although we haven't had any problems yet there's always that worry, is the frtont end going to lock in. We also have a 98 Chevy plow truck and we have trouble with the front not locking in when the weather is very cold.

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Steve Crum

11-25-2005 08:18:18




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to Jim K, 11-25-2005 06:15:57  
I changed my 84' Chevy over to manual front hubs. The auto hubs are not worth a hoot for plowing. I don't beat my machines but they are worked. I had to convert it because one would disengage when backing up and re-engage when I started forward, this wasn't the best thing under load as evidenced by all the pieces of the driver's side hub scattered all over the driveway.



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Steve Crum

11-25-2005 03:48:06




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
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I've had at least one truck on hand since my farm days Chevys a Jeep J-10 (real one) and now an F-150. The latest Chevy has sat by the polebarn for about 5 years waiting for a frame. It has the venerable 454 with 4 speed 207 transfer case and locking differentials front and rear. A little tough on gas, but what a brute. I've been driving an 89' F-150 with the 302 FI and 5 speed crew cab. I never was a Ford fan and Dad would roll over in his grave, But I have to admit, even with 194,000 miles on it, it's a work horse and dependable, fuel mileage is decent for a 5200 pound machine. Best of all it was bought cash money, ain't real pretty and the 50,000 doller SUV bunch give it a wide berth!

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Jonfarmer

11-25-2005 07:38:56




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 Heres your picture Steve! in reply to Steve Crum, 11-25-2005 03:48:06  
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You had posted 2 URLS in there, and that had created your error (the red X). I took that out. I was kinda hopeing it was a pic of that J-10 though. I used to have an 89 reg cab F150 4x4 with 4 on the floor 300ci straight six and 4:10 granny gears, unfortunatly it got rusted out real bad and I kinda miss it.

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Steve Crum

11-25-2005 08:10:18




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 Re: Heres your picture Steve! in reply to Jonfarmer, 11-25-2005 07:38:56  
Somewhere I have picures of the J-10, it was an 82' that I bought as a salvage vehicle. serious engine fire. I rebuilt it and it was one sweet truck looked good and pulled like a locomotive.
It had the 258 straight 6 and 4 speed transmission. I drove it for 6 years until the body got so bad I didn't have the time to patch it anymore.



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MN Scott

11-24-2005 20:36:59




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
My 2003 Chevy 2500HD Durmax diesel six speed has a floor mounted 4X4 engagement lever that is connected to the transfer case with linkage. The front axle has a electric lock up motor so its only half manual, never any trouble and it pulls like a mini semi tractor!



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Kelly Campbell

11-25-2005 02:09:36




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to MN Scott, 11-24-2005 20:36:59  
I have a 01 GMC 2500 HD with a Duramax and Allison, love the truck, pulls like a mother and the 100,000 mile warenty isn't half bad either. The new 06 models will have a new engine and a 6 speed Allision tranny.



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KEH

11-24-2005 18:59:47




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  

One's opinion on the quality depends partly on what the truck is to be used for. Hauling or pulling fairly heavy loads requires a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Commuting, running errands, and light hauling is best served by a smaller truck. The ability of a truck to stand up to abuse varies from year to year and make to make. Two examples: early 1970's Fords are reputed to be tough trucks, the 1973 F 250 I had (used when I got it) held up very well. Also, on one occasion I saw a man shovel his 1980's Toyota full and rounded up with pea gravel and drive off with it. Most trucks will perform well if they are kept filled with fresh oil, radiator is filled, and ATF is changed regularly. I didn't do this on one truck and suffered for it.

I pull heavy loads with a 1972 F 350. For other use I wanted a 4 cyl., 5 speed, 2 wd that would give good gas milage. Had to buy a new one since choices were limited and overpriced used. Almost got a Ford Ranger which had highest gas milage rating (29 hwy). Got a 2005 Toyota Tacoma after I couldn't get together with the Ford dealer. I think It is going to get about 28mpg.
Don't like the carpet in the floor, prefer rubber. Toyota is IMO going the wrong way in small trucks because this Tacoma is larger than previous models, but so are all the rest of the small trucks except the Ranger which was already a little large.

Since you mentioned 4wd Tacomas, my future SIL has a 2005 Tacoma 4wd, 4 cyl, long cab, which gets 22 mpg.
Present Tacomas have a heavy duty plastic bed which should resist rust up in the salted roads belt.

The best truck is usually the one that is paid for.

KEH

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

11-25-2005 03:19:56




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to KEH, 11-24-2005 18:59:47  
By far the best vehicle I have ever owned is my current '95 4Runner, which shares a power train with the Tacoma. It has the 2.3 litre and a 5 speed with no air. E.P.A. claimed 28 mpg and it gets it unless the weather is cold, I run a lot in 4WD, or it is towing something bulky.

It has never been back to the dealership. A friend who is a GM service tech has looked after the truck since it was new. With minor maintenance to the body (annual paint touch-ups, windshield frame resurfacing, back gate replaced under warranty)it is still in very good condition after 312,000 km.

The problem is that there is nothing out there now with which to replace it. I don't want an automatic with 245 hp and a big thirst for fuel. I had hopes for the FJ Cruiser scheduled to come out in January, but it looks as though it will be another yuppie toy. Maybe they'll sell a stripped down version as a loss leader.

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Specter

11-24-2005 18:07:41




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
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This is a REAL TRUCK! International CXT. It'll make those Dodge dually diesels look like go-carts.



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cdmn

11-24-2005 23:15:57




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to Specter, 11-24-2005 18:07:41  
Saw a new Case 330 truck at the gas station this summer. Could hardly believe it.



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Specter

11-25-2005 07:55:20




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to cdmn, 11-24-2005 23:15:57  
He, he, might you have a picture of it? ;-)

I've never seen a CXT in person, but just by looking at International's online tour, it's one heck of a nice truck. Powerful puller too, with that DT466. The only problem is that it would be a whopper kick in the pocketbook to buy one of them.

Specter in Alberta



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Roger P

11-24-2005 17:22:47




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
What a shame we cannot get the diesel engines that are available to Toyota buyers in the rest of the world. Come to think of it vehicles made by Nissan and Mitsubishi come equipped that way too, once again we get the shaft from big oil. Maybe as the diesel fuel here get"s cleaner these economical trucks will be available to U.S.customers. I think common rail diesels need that low sulpher fuel to operate at max efficiency.Maybe if we ask the french company Raenult? (who own Nissan)they will send us a few over...!!

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NC wayne

11-24-2005 16:52:25




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
I had a '87 Ford F150 with over 300,000 miles on it when I got ran into and it got totalled. It got used as a real truck should and never gave me any problems. Now for shear toughness I've also got a '78 Jeep J-10 pickup with the 360 AMC engine with a 3 speed manual transmission and a manually shifted transfer case. It isn't all that pretty anymore and the gas mileage is attrocious but it doesn't matter where I go or what I do with it I can't kill it.

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Jonfarmer

11-24-2005 15:53:56




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
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Yep, there sure are!, unimog makes a pretty tough truck and you don't have to worry about 4wd, as they are permanent full time AWD. Yeah I think 3/4 ton and larger are better, the half tons of today have an awful lot of plastic parts in them. Lots of city boys that buy big pickups and never use them for a day for what they are built for. Used to be the only people that owned pickups were people who truely needed them. Click the link for more info on Unimog.

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BrianRM

11-25-2005 06:13:56




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to Jonfarmer, 11-24-2005 15:53:56  
Jonfarmer- How do change the URL address when pasting in email to a short form or description like you did by inserting "unimog trucks link" instead on the actual>Link

Thanks.



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Jonfarmer

11-25-2005 07:14:38




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to BrianRM, 11-25-2005 06:13:56  
It's easy!, just paste the link URL in the "optional link URL" box below and then you can title it whatever you want in the "link title" box. HTH! Oh, and by the way, the link goes to an interesting Unimog test drive report done by Truck Trend. This site allows the use of HTML so you can have
fun
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font sizes!!!

, even change the color of the text to whatever you want, but I've forgotten right off hand the command to change the text color because I haven't used it for awhile. You can learn HTML easily right off the web. Kim sure does have a very nice site for us to play on.

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BrianRM

11-25-2005 09:22:14




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to Jonfarmer, 11-25-2005 07:14:38  
Thanks a lot..... ..



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old

11-24-2005 15:40:07




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to johndeerejon, 11-24-2005 15:28:27  
Yep most trucks now days are built for urban cowboys. There more car then they are truck. Toy do make a good little truck and they will go and go some more. My dad had a toy pickup years ago and it had 350,000 plus miles on it and when he slod it, it still ran well but was starting to use a little oil. My self I like the older trucks, I have a 1980 heavy half chev and if I ever get around to it I'm going to build a 3/4 ton 1969 chev but if I do it will have 2 trannys so I will have a 16 speed tranny.

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TP from Central PA

11-24-2005 17:34:19




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to old, 11-24-2005 15:40:07  
I put a Cummins in my "71 C-20..... ..Love it, and it certainly makes people look when they see the smoke roll. Now, if I ever stop using it enough to finsih the body work and pain I"ll really have something. All ready planning my next one, "SuperDuty" "69 GMC 2500 4x4 running a Detroit/roadranger.



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old

11-24-2005 18:00:47




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to TP from Central PA, 11-24-2005 17:34:19  
Well if I ever get around to building my 1969 3/4 ton it will have a 250 chev 6 cylinder with 4 speed and behind that is will have a aux. tranny from a twin stick tandem behind that tranny. It will also have duals on the back. The 6 cylinder engine was rebuilt in 97 or 98 by me bored 40 over and head milled 10. Has only around 2000 mile on it. But the truck it was in the spring frame broke so I scraped the truck, but kept the drive train.

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steveormary

11-24-2005 17:05:22




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 Re: are there any real trucks left? in reply to old, 11-24-2005 15:40:07  
Dont know about trucks and never had the privilege of buying a new one. I wore out one 1979 Chevy pu that was wore out when I got it.
Then I went thru 3 F150 econo-vans.(1988,1990,1989) 2 got totaled and the 3rd.got sold when I retired. They were all good rigs.



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