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fixerupper

11-20-2005 13:45:23




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Just had a wild idea, and I do get some wild ones sometimes, but I thought I would run it by you guys first. Would electrolysis help free up a stuck engine by pouring the right stuff down the spark plug hole and then dangling the charged wire down in there? Been soaking an old F20 for two years with various concoctions without any results. By the way, what is the right 'stuff'? Jim




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frankiee

11-21-2005 07:04:18




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to fixerupper, 11-20-2005 13:45:23  
I don't know about the electrolysis
I don't think so.
I Have never tried this but I want to someday.
What about if you disconected the conectingrods that you can so that you can work on just a couple stuck pistions at a time.
Try and shrink the pistion with liquid nitrogen or a CO2 extinguisher or dry ice.
I know that sounds crazy but I always wanted to try it. It would be a bit expensive.
I use to heat large nut and bolts with a torch and then dump cold water on to them.
I think it worked.
I think that the object with less mass (nut) gave up its heat quicker then the object with the greater mass (bolt) and contracted to a smaller size thus pulling apart the bond enough so when I pulled on the wrench it turned.
I don,t know how much heat the pistions could take if that method was tried with the engine.
After being rapidly cooled, I dont think I would trust the pistions.
I don't think simply cooling the pistion .....
wait: It dont take very much cold temp to make metal weak also. If it was cold enough then it could make the ring lands brittle enough that they could crack.
I don't know!
But I did this much typing so I am going to send it anyway. LOL

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Sid

11-20-2005 18:03:37




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to fixerupper, 11-20-2005 13:45:23  
What I have read about it you have to use a non conductive container. The part to be cleaned is suspended in the solution. So my guess would be no it won't work.



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fixerupper

11-20-2005 19:09:31




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to Sid, 11-20-2005 18:03:37  
Kinda thought it wouldn't work since I haven't heard anyone suggest it before. The only time I saw electrolysis used, it was in a plastic barrel, unless I drop the whole tractor in a big plastic vat..... ..! Oh well I guess I go to plan C. Diesel fuel didn't work and neither did iodine. Some of the guys like Kroyl so maybe that is the next plan of attack. This old girl is sitting in the back of the cattle shed and I have no plans to work on her for a couple of years so there is a lot of time left to experiment. Jim

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Sid

11-21-2005 16:55:38




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to fixerupper, 11-20-2005 19:09:31  
Still sitting in the back of the cattle shed. I was talking to a guy a few weeks about old tractors and stuff. We got to talking about a "stuck" tractor I brought home. He suggested that I take the rocker arm cover off and be sure the rocker arm assembley is not froze up. Said he has seen a lot of "stuck" tractors that is all it was.



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another doug

11-21-2005 03:32:45




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to fixerupper, 11-20-2005 19:09:31  
If you have the head off, then you could measure the height from the piston top to the deck of the block, record that measurement for that cylinder, then get a sledge and smack a piston that is not at bottom dead center( I used a 2" diameter cultipacker axle cut-off to about 13"long to clear the head bolts),then measure, check it often, when you see some progress, then it's time to rejoice! been there....Farmall H, even put a bottle jack under tractor on crankshaft to help some!

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fixerupper

11-21-2005 06:07:47




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to another doug, 11-21-2005 03:32:45  
I have a feeling these old cast iron pistons are rusted pretty tight and your idea is what I will probably end up doing. I would like to leave it all together until I do get serious about working on it. Yesterday I jacked up a rear wheel so I can jerk around on the wheel with it in gear. If it hasn't freed up easily by now, after soaking for two years, it probably will require the sledge hammer. I freed up a regular once by screwing a hydraulic hose into a sparkplug hole and putting hydraulic pressure to it. Got lucky that time and didn't break anything. Jim

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another doug

11-22-2005 03:10:24




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to fixerupper, 11-21-2005 06:07:47  
I love the hydraulic hose idea! don't blame you about not wanting to take it apart yet...got a few projects laying around here in a thousand pieces like that,oh the clutter!!! like monkeys on your back, have fun when the time comes!



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chris sweetland

11-20-2005 18:06:49




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 Re: electrolysis F20 in reply to Sid, 11-20-2005 18:03:37  
take the head and oil pan off and put it in the sodium carbonate soultion and put a charge to the whole thing if that dosent work you outta just give me the whole darned tractor



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