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any Chrysler engine experts out there?

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Rich Iowa

11-19-2005 17:06:49




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Does anyone know if the 2.5L that is in my Dodge Dakota is the same as the 2.5L that Jeep put in some of their Wranglers? Also, I was talking to a guy today who said he had a 2.5L in a Chrysler front wheel drive car. Am I correct in thinking that engine wouldn"t swap? I love my diesel, but I need to get my Dakota on the road again with it getting cold and all. Thanks for any help. Rich




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dieselade

11-21-2005 04:22:46




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to Rich Iowa, 11-19-2005 17:06:49  
they are different engines. in fact, the early 2.5 engines in the jeeps and cherokees were the gm four cyl. then amc made their own 2.5 out of the amc six cyl. also, the motor mounts would be different on the chrysler 2.5 fore and aft motors compaired to transvers engines.



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cdmn

11-20-2005 21:25:27




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to Rich Iowa, 11-19-2005 17:06:49  
I should have mentioned that the Mopar slant 4 has an overhead cam with a rubber timing belt between the crank and the camshaft. The AMC four cylinder has an overhead valve engine with pushrods. No outside timing belt. The Chrysler corporate 4 was "quietly dropped" in favor of the "Magnum 4". So you should be able to tell pretty easily what you have. Chrysler also used a Mitsubishi 4, but not in Dakotas. They also used a Volkswagen 4 in the earlier Omnis. Then for a while, they used a Peugeot 4 cylinder as an option. Finally, they had a "Maserati" engine. Just a double overhead cam on the same slant 4. Somewhere in there, they also sold them with turbochargers. I still own a 1982 Rampage, and its about the same as an Omni. Could fit different engines into it. I'm thinking of installing a diesel with rear wheel drive. Just thinking... Chrysler even sold a kit to convert them to rearwheel drive for racing purposes.

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Rich Iowa

11-21-2005 04:31:06




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to cdmn, 11-20-2005 21:25:27  
I believe I have the Mopar, but my engine is straight up, not slanted. It has the timing belt on the outside of the engine, behind a plastic cover. The thought of throwing a small diesel in had crossed my mind, but to much work and money. Plus, I need the gasser so I don"t have to worry about the diesel gelling up everyday. Thanks for the info on the engines, I"ll try to remember it all



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Leroy

11-20-2005 06:19:20




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to Rich Iowa, 11-19-2005 17:06:49  
The 2.5 used in the cars and caravan-voyager vans would not be able to be put in a forward-aft position as the way they were designed and I have the 2.5 in my 94 Caravan and I have had all three AMC engines 199, 232, 258 and they were good engines, still have a 258 in a 77 AMC Hornet



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cdmn

11-19-2005 19:48:06




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to Rich Iowa, 11-19-2005 17:06:49  
They were different engines, but the later Dodge Dakotas four cylinder used the Jeep engine, which was a shortened version of the AMC 232 six which by all accounts was a terrific engine. I had a 258 that seemed to leak a lot though it ran many miles.
There was probably a different bellhousing, clutch, starter, motor mounts, and radiator. Probably the computer too. Don't know. I'm pretty sure the 2.5 liter mopar engines were the same, although the pickup might have had the toughened "industrial" parts. The Jeep engine was straight up, but the mopar engine was slanted over. Let us know which one you have now, and what year of Dakota. Mine was a 91 and it still used the Mopar engine. 2005 was last year for AMC designed engines. Dated back to 1940's Nash Ambassador. Don't know what the Wrangler uses now. I think diesel is an option.

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Rich Iowa

11-20-2005 06:18:48




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to cdmn, 11-19-2005 19:48:06  
I have a 1991 Dodge Dakota, the 2.5L is straight up, not slanted. I"ve seen a Jeep with the 4 banger in it, looked a lot like mine, but I think there were a few differances. Only seen one Jeep with the 2.5L though. I believe there will be a diesel option in the Jeep Liberty in a year or two.



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Leroy

11-20-2005 06:25:23




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 Re: any Chrysler engine experts out there? in reply to Rich Iowa, 11-20-2005 06:18:48  
All car and van engines 2.2-2.5 will interchange were strait up with aluminm heads and were made for a wrap around tranny but mounts and tranny would not be able to be used in forward-aft position. I know a guy that replaced his 4 cylinder with a V8 engine, still has it but no longer in use.



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