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Spring or fall oil changes?

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Jay (ND)

11-10-2005 13:12:56




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I'm just curious when you change the oil on your seasonal equipment and why at that time.

My dad always said to change in the fall because the acids in the oil are hard on the engine. Now with newer oils with high TBNs, I'm not sure that is necessary.

Many from here have got me thinking of changing in the spring due to condensation build up in the winter.

So what are your opinions?




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msb

11-10-2005 22:57:16




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to Jay (ND), 11-10-2005 13:12:56  
Oil is cheap.Overhauls and spun bearings are not.



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nw_bearcat

11-10-2005 13:27:01




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to Jay (ND), 11-10-2005 13:12:56  
I guess it adds some expense, but with the 4000 I use around my little acreage, it gets an engine oil change spring and fall, and it only gets less than 50hrs/year.



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John T

11-10-2005 13:25:37




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to Jay (ND), 11-10-2005 13:12:56  
I still prefer the fall oil change so the nasty and possibly acidic oil dont remain on parts like what you mentioned and the parts get a fresh clean coat of oil as shes put away. If careful in the spring whens shes at a long time, slowly cracking a drain plug open just a tad should let any water thats settled in the bototm from condensation to drain out. I believe in keeping the gas tanks full so theres less oxygen to react with the tanks insides n rust plus less volume for condensation. I use Sta Bil in the gas to keep it from gumming n varnishing up so bad plus low ash 2 cycle oil in the gas so the carbs internals hopefully have a deposit of thin oil film to prevent oxygen contact n rust. Its best if one can exercise n run the engine now n then letting them warm up to bake out moisture and move things around to oil coat any seals to prevent drying n shrinkage. A trickle charge now n then is good for storage batteries also and be sure they are topped off with electrolyte. On tools n machinery that sets out, I used to use a garden sprayer to coat it with oil mixed with Diesel fuel and spray lithium grease on critical components to protect from moisture.

Good topic for discussion this time of year

Take care yall

John T

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JT

11-10-2005 14:44:04




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to John T, 11-10-2005 13:25:37  
Gas additive is a good point, this time of year, but I do not use Sta-bil, have had some bad reactions with some gas, left little pellets of tapioca looking stuff in carb. Was a pain to get it all you. I will stick with Sea Foam, it works much better for me. had engines sit for over 2 years and start up like was just put in storage with it.



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JT

11-10-2005 13:23:57




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to Jay (ND), 11-10-2005 13:12:56  
I have to agree with your dad. If you are running the machine a lot in the winter, then I would do it in the spring, if you are not running it in the winter, I would go toward the fall, I would not think you would see much condensation in the winter, being the machine is just sitting, unless you live in a region that has a lot of temerature extremes.



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rpg52

11-11-2005 09:40:27




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 Re: Spring or fall oil changes? in reply to JT, 11-10-2005 13:23:57  
I try to shut off gas and run the carburators empty on all my small engines. It seems like that avoids the gumming problems next spring, even if I forget to stabilize the gas.



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