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Exhaust caps . . which way???

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Fluggie in IA

11-03-2005 14:04:57




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Just a simple question for y'all! Which way do you all turn your exhaust pipe rain flipper cap?
Flip back at the driver?
Flip forward so it stays closed when hauled?
Flip sideways?
Or the big question . . No flipper at all??
I see 'em oriented every which way even angular so just wondering if there's a preference out there!




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Leland

11-04-2005 18:05:22




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Old del monte green bean can been in tool box for years works great .



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Hugh MacKay

11-04-2005 12:16:42




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Fluggie: Kind of figured I'd get some fur flying on this one. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against covering exhaust stacks. If your going to do it, do it right.

I only ever had water down a stack twice that caused any problems. First time was Farmall 300 and it did have a soup can over the mufler. The exhaust pipe was loose in manifold thus allowing water running down mufler and along the hood to fill one cylinder full. Removed that plug turned it over a few times, put the plug back and she fired right up. Second time was Farmall 560 diesel with a bent rain cap, that actually deflected water in the mufler.

My contention is this, if you got water enough to fill a cylinder tractor was parked beside a tree, building or some other object higher than the tractor and that object caused a downdraft, and deflected rain water down the stack. That or you have or had leaks in the exhaust system. If the tractor is parked in a open area, a 10" rainfall in 2 hours will not fill the engine with water. Air currents over an open upright pipe will allow only a very small percentage of the water down the stack. Remember all the tower silos with no roof. Very little rain or snow ever got in the silo due to air currents over the silo. Put a rain gauge in one of those silos, it will register a minor fraction of the rain gauge in your yard.

Yes Allan my last 4 tractors and combine all came with those contraption you call a rain cap. Most of them went in the scrap pile within a year. Same with those dindy little things IH called tool boxes. I put a tool box on a tractor that would hold something, and my soup can was one of the items.

You guys just don't take time to stable your horse for the night. Remember the old gray mare, you brushed her and put a rug on her. Surely you can take a few min. to put a soup can on the mufler.

One other thing, if Farmall M didn't start after the rain I'll bet the real problem was wet distributor or cracked cap.

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RodinNS

11-04-2005 13:56:13




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-04-2005 12:16:42  
I'll keep the cap facing forward. I've seen the soup can fly across the yard in the wind, and I'm not all that fond of carrying them around.
As far as filling a cylinder goes..... it can happen. A neighbour of mine has a 354 Perkins block sitting around for that reason. It filled, froze and split..... I think that was, as you say, from a bad cap..... Thought it was doing it's job, not paying much heed of it, but it allowed her to fill. And after all that misery, the damn stack is still open (angled pipe). Oh well.

Rod

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Mike M

11-04-2005 05:32:25




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
No Flipper at all ! I run alot of 2 cyl JD's and I can't stand those flippers bang clanging around.



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MJ in the UK

11-04-2005 03:56:23




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Well said Hugh and i fully agree with you the only thing you left out is the rattle of the cap on engine tick over. MJ



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Hugh MacKay

11-04-2005 00:45:05




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Fluggie: I find it hard to belive so many folks would actually spend money for such a useless piece of junk. To start with, if exhaust system is tight, and if just being parked outside over night, you will never get enough water down the stack to affect the engine in any way, unless you have wind deflections. You think about it even a 3" rainfall , wouldn't fill the low points in the manifold.

If your going to park the tractor for days, weeks or months at a time, surely you could remember the soup can. I farmed for a good number of years, never put a tractor in during the work season, never covered an exhaust for just overnight. Yes I did cover them if parked for a few days. Standard equipment in tool box of every tractor I have, is a soup can. Reading discussion on these forums, I know I got well above average hours of service between engine rebuilds.

Regardless of which way you install that it can catch on tree limbs. You can also break muflers, exhaust pipes and even manifolds this way. The whole automotive industry be it cars, trucks or tractors has seen a lot of cost increase due to gadgets for stupid folks.

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Mike (WA)

11-04-2005 08:24:30




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-04-2005 00:45:05  
We morons in Pacific NW are pretty much agreed on flappers- hard to find a tractor without one. Soup can in every tool box takes up valuable space that could be used for empty pop cans, IMHO.



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Fluggie in IA

11-04-2005 06:34:34




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-04-2005 00:45:05  
I went thru trying to start my Farmall M after a heavy rain just to have it sieze when trying to compress the water that ran thru the muffler, thru the exhaust manifold and into the open exhaust valve. Took better part of a couple hours to get the water out and get her to fire up so I could go in the field. And that was just one rain in one day of about 2 inches.
From that point on, I decided the flippers were necessary, if for no other reason, but to save may anguish and wasted time getting water outta my engine when I could be out in the field making $$. So, you keep your soup can and I'll keep my flipper pointed forward!!!

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cannonball

11-04-2005 04:41:25




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-04-2005 00:45:05  
come on now they are very important in east texas..we have had 18 inches of rain in about 8 hrs before so where would that fill to..i keep then on tractors here..one has a straight with turbo don't want water in turbo...they have their place...have nice day may god bless



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Allan in NE

11-04-2005 04:28:38




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-04-2005 00:45:05  
Oh comon' now, Hugh,

The reason "people spend money for such a useless piece of of junk" is because they have been coming from the factory as standard issue since the mid sixties.

Maybe the manufacturers' were getting a bit worried that people would start suin' 'em after falling off of the 14' ladder while trying to apply the dreaded soup can?

And for what it is worth, they always came from the factory facing forward as witnessed by this sales brochure picture.

Allan

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Fluggie in IA

11-04-2005 06:40:25




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-04-2005 04:28:38  
Good one, Allen! I had forgotten about the factory installs.



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bradk

11-04-2005 05:26:10




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-04-2005 04:28:38  
Hugh-I had to read what you wrote twice!After farming for a "good number of years",you still didn't have enough common sense to put on a rain cap?As far as worthless,that describes the soup can which took up room in your tool-box which could have for years held more tools!My brother once broke the muffler off my Oliver from a low reinforcing cable.I put on a straight pipe & it sat out one night during cultivating season.4" of rain fell that night.Tractor wouldn't start because the cylinders washed out.To get it started had to remove exhaust man. to dry out & spray fogging oil in intake to retore compression ,and change oil.Learned the HARD way!~brad

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Hurryin_Hoosier

11-03-2005 17:56:01




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
With the front of the tractor being 12 o'clock, I put the hinged side at a slight angle, or about 1:30. That way the limbs don't catch the open flapper straight on from either direction, and usually ride up over the edge of the hinge. When they ride over, it closes for only a second. Also, the exhaust is going off to my side instead of directly in my face.



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RusselAZ

11-03-2005 17:29:13




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
right side up



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

11-03-2005 17:27:44




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Most heavy equipment manufacturers used to reccomend turning the rain cap sideways to prevent the flap from blowing open while being hauled and the air forced down the exhaust stack from windmilling the turbochargers which won't be getting any oil with the engine not running, thus resulting in a lot of unnecessary turbo bushing wear.



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BobMo

11-03-2005 19:15:10




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Gene Davis (Ga.), 11-03-2005 17:27:44  
Fluggie, what your saying may be what they recommend but the reason is not possible. Think about it...



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Ray

11-03-2005 17:12:57




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Backwards works better if you have any trees.
Forward catches everything.



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barnrat

11-03-2005 16:48:15




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
My JD 730's or my JD 830 cound never keep the caps on as soon started to really lug em that cap would blow sky high.



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buickanddeere

11-03-2005 16:00:29




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Forward. It help deflect the noise and smoke away.



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Joe MD

11-04-2005 08:07:00




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to buickanddeere, 11-03-2005 16:00:29  
This is exactly what I found. I originally did mine backwards and found the noise level decreased dramatically when I turned it around.

I suppose if you are hauling on a trailer a lot in the forward position . . . maybe sideways would be best.



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bradk

11-03-2005 15:23:29




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
I prefer the cap forward.I bought a super77 that faced toward the rear & it speckled my face W/condensation & exhaust soot when warming up.~brad



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JRD(VA)

11-03-2005 14:53:59




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
If you dont work around tree limbs, it doesnt matter, but the correct way is the triangular pointed part toward the front, this is supposed to keep the low limbs from catching on it, they hit it and ride over it, doesnt always work.



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Dave H (MI)

11-03-2005 14:27:42




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Forwards for working but I switch it around if hauling on an open trailer to backwards.



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BobMo

11-03-2005 14:22:58




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
I like mine flap forward since I'm always under tree limbs it seems like. It least that way its got a chance but I usually keep 3 or 4 extras because I must have'm laying all over this place. Also seems like they are bent daily even though its probably not that often.
So I'd guess it's whatever works for you....



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Case Lady

11-03-2005 14:14:13




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
no flipper, flapper thingy - bean can bent to fit for when she is parked outside....



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Tim...Ok

11-03-2005 14:09:57




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
Sideways for me..keeps it closed for haulin and outta my face when mowing..



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Dave_Id

11-03-2005 14:08:59




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Fluggie in IA, 11-03-2005 14:04:57  
How do you prefer your cap???



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fluggie in IA

11-03-2005 14:42:35




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Dave_Id, 11-03-2005 14:08:59  
I prefer it opening at the front al I think it looks natural that way. But backwards for working around trees. never sideways and never without a cap - too easy to forget the bean can!



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RustyFarmall

11-03-2005 14:20:09




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Dave_Id, 11-03-2005 14:08:59  
I prefer to wear my cap with the bill pointing forward, keeps the sun out of my eyes that way. If I turn it around the other way I will be mistaken for a punk. :)



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Tim...Ok

11-03-2005 14:41:24




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to RustyFarmall, 11-03-2005 14:20:09  
On my green one,it only gets the can ..keeps me on my toes tryin to catch it after I forget to take it off and give'er a spin..hehe

Ballcap goes forward,nice arch in bill,let out to fit melon head..8^)



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eric johnson

11-03-2005 15:33:36




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 Re: Exhaust caps . . which way??? in reply to Tim...Ok, 11-03-2005 14:41:24  
it don't matter to me they all go inside at night



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