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OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to buy

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Brokenwrench

10-06-2005 05:48:29




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Hello, I"ve been dragging my feet for a while about buying a digital camera. We`re about to start a new restoration on a CA Allis. I think it`s time to get one, so I can document my steps easier than chewing thru a bunch of film. I know nothing about them. What would you guys buy, a digital camera or a camcorder that also takes pictures? Keep in mind I also have kids, that I would like to be able to do some filming of school programs, hunting stuff, and such.

My questions are:
Am I better off with camera (less cumbersome) and a camcorder?
What features do you look for?
What`s a good reasonable priced brand?
How many MP should you have?

I was nosing around Ebay and noticed alot of SVP
brand ones real reasonable. They are new with alot of accesories and a warranty. Are these just low end cheapies that I`ll have problems with?

Thanks in advance for the help here. Brokenwrench

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Nolan

10-07-2005 06:26:41




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
The digital cameras are physically smaller than the camcorders of any type, and they hold differently. That's your call as to the importance of size and holding position.

Generally, the camcorders take photos as a secondary feature on a memory stick. The memory sticks are not as large capacity as the largest camera memory cards, but they can be quite large regardless.

Generally, cameras take low grade film footage and record it as a movie on the memory card. The quality is e-mail type normally.

And, as memory capacity has increased, so has the capacity of both units. I have noticed that our digital camcorder tends to stay in the bag except for long sessions. Otherwise, we use our digital camera, and record those few seconds of footage of interesting things on it.

Features I look for, and have learned to look for.

#1 Lag time between pushing the shutter and when the picture is taken.

#2 Pixal count. I find 3x does just fine on snap shot sized pictures. 5x is visibly better, but just barely. For portrates, you need 5x minimum I'd say.

#3 Optical zoom. Ignore digital zoom, it's lousy. What's the lens capable of.

#4 Conventional memory. Nothing like having a one off memory stick that's incompatable with everything.

Things like night vision and such are gimics to me. I really never use them. Now if you do a lot of night shots while coon hunting, they're nice. So judge your own application.

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Mike Van

10-07-2005 02:36:33




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
My 2 cents - I needed a dig. just to sell on ebay, post pics, etc. I bought a factory reconditioned Kodak DC 215 on ebay from a camera store, 4 years ago for about 170.00 - 1300+ pics later, it still works fine. I use the card that came with it, over & over, mostly just take 4 pics at a time & then delete. It's simple, small, dependable - 100% happy with it.



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tortmort

10-06-2005 19:07:52




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
Kodak cameras are very easy to use. I realy like mine. My brother in law has one and he loves it. Get as many MPs as possible.



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cj3b_jeep

10-06-2005 13:33:44




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
BrokenWrench, I'd stay away from anything that is not a name brand. The cheapies might look nice, but think of them in tractor terms. You know that the Zen Noh has all the features you want, but will it hold up the the Deere or the Kubota? When you get into the Hewlett Packards and such you are getting a bit better. If you want one that will last stick with the big name brands like Nikon, Canon, Olympus. I'd stick with at least 4 megapixels, anything less is not enough, 8 + is overkill. Also, stick with Optical Zoom. Digital zoom is a trick you can do on your own PC much better than your camera can. Most of them do shirt video clips pretty well, some are better than others. Also, if they make a rechargeable battery for the camer you buy, get it. Otherwise you'll go poor buying batteries for it. Good Luck

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Nebraska Cowman

10-06-2005 11:11:59




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
I take thousands of pics and have worn out a Canon A60 and replaced it with their 510 which is too small and hard to hang on to. Watch for cameras that are easy on batterys and for sure use rechargables. do some searching online and you can find consumer reports and dissussion forums.



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Bob M

10-06-2005 11:55:59




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-06-2005 11:11:59  
I can second the Canon A60! Mine is still going strong after 8,000+ images. It's just the right size (pocketable but big enough to hold onto even with gloves) is very easy on batteries (can get 300+ shots on a single set of rechargable LiMh AA's) and takes excellent quality photos. And it makes acceptable video clips too.

My "main" camera is an 4 year old (ancient in digicam terms...) Olympus C2100 ultrazoom. It's shot over 20,000 images altogether - often under extreme conditions of cold, dust, rain, snow, etc - and is still working great.

Punch below for a comprehensive listing of digital camera reviews. I used when selecting both of my cameras - the reviews were very helpful in making my selections.

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MN Bob

10-06-2005 07:32:11




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
Lots of good info already but will just add my experience. I needed something good that was easy to use so the wife would use it too. Settled on the Kodak easy share with dock. Neighbor bought next model up from mine for his wife. Both models take short video as well as very good stills. I recommend 3 or more MP and 4 or more OPTICAL zoom. My 2cents



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Coloken

10-06-2005 07:06:07




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
Get a digital camera, a camcorder depends on your needs. I use E-bay all the time, but this is one time I think you should buy from a local store where you can pick it up and compare to find one you like. Not a real cheapy, but don't get carried away with too much camera unless you know what you are doing. When you buy your camers also buy a little adapter that plugs into your computer to read that memory. They are cheap--about 15 dollars. this is so you do not have to hook the camera up to the computer, which is some times a hassel. Each of us has their favorite make. Talk to any friends and try out their camera. There was a pretty good discusion a week or two ago on ,i think, the tool place.
Kennyp

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Stan(PA)

10-06-2005 07:03:02




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
Wife has a Panasonic Digital Camcorder that fits in the hand. No bigger than most digital cameras, and will also take still pictures. She also has a Sony digital camera, it`s 5 megapixel, and takes great pictures. Either is available for around $350 (or maybe less by now). I get any brand name, and at least 5 MP, if you`re going to blow up to 8X10. Most cameras on Ebay are old models, and overpriced. By the way, you can set quality on the digital cameras. You get more pictures on lower quality setting. Hope this helps...Stan

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Dale in IN

10-06-2005 06:41:50




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Make sure that your computer supports the camera that you buy. I just bought a new one and I have tried it on 2 different computers, one running windows ME and the other running windows xp pro service pack 2. And have yet to get the pictures to transfer over to the computer. My computers do not have a driver for this brand of camera and the disc that came with it does not work. Check your camera and scanner set up and see what cameras are supported.

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RustyFarmall

10-06-2005 07:07:37




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Dale in IN, 10-06-2005 06:41:50  
Dale, I ran into a similar problem with an older Polaroid digital camera that I bought at an auction, and use as a spare. This camera uses older technology and was not easily compatible with windows XP. The camera does use a memory card, and I found that by using a "card reader", I can easily down load pictures from the card using the Kodak software that is already installed. I found the card reader on e-bay for $9.95.

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Mike7468

10-06-2005 06:16:28




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
I also am in the process of buying a digital camera, wife wants one for her bday. Are the cameras that also do video any good. If so what type?



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RustyFarmall

10-06-2005 06:01:16




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 Re: OT digital camera/camcorder purchase. What to in reply to Brokenwrench, 10-06-2005 05:48:29  
I would be a little cautious about buying a camera on e-bay unless you are familiar with that brand and know that it would work for you. There are some unscruplious sellers that deal on e-bay. The digital camera that I use is a Kodak DX3500, 2.2 megapixels. I have sevearal pictures up-loaded to the tractor photos section, and all of those pics were taken with the Kodak. I am sure that there are better cameras out there, but this one does everything I need it to do.

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