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Rich Iowa

10-02-2005 17:15:57




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I was out riding my ATV today with a friend when he got a call from another guy that got his Jeep stuck. When we got there, the floor of the cab was under water. We figured there was going to be damage to the engine as the engine bay was half full and the exhaust was barely above water. We got it out and that Jeep started right up. I was impressed, never have I seen a vehicle driven into water, get pulled out and start up with no work involved. Now I"m thinking I need to find a Jeep. This was a YJ with a 4 cylinder, but I"m thinking a CJ7 will do me fine. Anybody have experiance with these? What sized engines came in these, MPG?

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IH2444

10-03-2005 10:30:58




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
I used to have a 6cyl CJ5. It would drown out the distributor in a heavy rain. I wondered when I bought it why 2 dist caps and a can of WD40 was in the glove box.



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Steve Crum

10-03-2005 06:09:51




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
I've had and used dozens of trucks over the years, primarily Chevys and Fords. But the one time I did step off the beaten path, I bought a burn't 1982 Jeep J-10 pickup with the 258 engine and 4 speed stick. Body was real nice but it had an engine fire and was totalled. I rebuilt it. It earned a LOT of respect from me. Real easy on gas, decent handler on the road, dependable as sunrise, pulled like a dozer and even farming river bottom land never buried it so bad I couldn't drive it home. Once sunk the front end to where mud was over the front of the hood. I was dropping off another gravity wagon to Dad, and the spot I sunk in was like quick sand. The river level came up during the morning and that area of sandy loam was dry on top, but 2" under the top it was like soup. I couldn't move with the wagon behind and the engine fan and pulleys were in muck anyway. Dad hooked the 4010 and picker on the rear drawbar of the wagon and dragged me back out. I got the wagon loose and hooked it to the picker for Dad and got him going. After sitting for about 15 minute most of the muck fell out of the engine bay and the Jeep started right up. I made a beeline for home and powerwashed the engine bay and especially the radiator which was plugged. After the washing, the engine still fired right up. The muck in the engine room had been up to the front of the valve cover. Before I got too cocky, I took another truck up to NAPA and got a rebuilt alternator, limited slip gear lube, a pumpkin gasket and blueglue. I replaced the alternator and serviced the front axle. Never a problem in 20,000 more miles and 5 years. The body got so bad on it, I finally replaced it with a Chevy, as I didn't have time to rebuild the body. I'm not sure but I thought I saw this truck about 6 months ago still going strong.
I'm still of the opinion that the old Jeeps (pre-Dodge) are the standard by which others are measured.

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old

10-02-2005 19:50:24




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
YJ never heard of that one. Plus haven't seen a 4 cylinder in one for years. Sounds like and old Mil jeep which explains why it would start up again. The new ones will not do that and also will not go where the old ones did. Heres one for you, did it have a flat head engine in it?? If it did its an old MIL spec jeep. They where made to go and then some.



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Stickler

10-03-2005 08:53:40




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to old, 10-02-2005 19:50:24  
YJ came after CJ. They weren't near as tough as a CJ, but still a pretty good unit.



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Rich Iowa

10-03-2005 04:48:44




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to old, 10-02-2005 19:50:24  
Old, I am in no way an expert. This Jeep we pulled from the river, was much newer, probably 1991 or newer. Looking on the net, YJs were made from 1987-96. The 4 banger in it looks like the 2.5L that"s in my Dodge Dakota. Rich



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Keith-OR

10-02-2005 20:24:39




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to old, 10-02-2005 19:50:24  
Military did away with the flat heads some where in the 50's when they went to the M38-A1 which was an overhead 4 cylinder. CJ5 was the civilian version of the M38-A1. My dad bought New CJ5 in 1965 with 456 gears posi front and rear. would climb a tree if you could get it started up. In 1969 I put a Ford 289 in dad's jeep using a Hooser conversion built here in Pendleton, OR. and put Saginaw steering box off a 58 Chevy... Dad traded 65 CJ5 off 6 years ago to a friend. It is still going strong...The older Jeeps were extremely tough. IMHO I would get a CJ5 Jeep, was still built by Willys....Keith

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RN

10-02-2005 19:12:20




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
Used to work for Jeep dealer mid 70's- fairly good vehicles then. AMC engines were a 232, 258 6cylinder, 304 V8 in CJs. DJs had 2.5 liter GMC 4 cylinder- I have a 69kaiser made DJ with this engine. Pickups J4000 and Wagoneers could have a 350 buick or 360 AMC. 4 liter 6 later engine, AMC developed -sold to chrysler who continued manufacture- have heard fairly relable, met emission standards better than earlier family 6s. Not sure of 90's on, Electronics and emissions a weak point in all utility types now. RN.

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jfp

10-02-2005 18:29:18




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
Jeep has a good reputation. I had a 89 made by Chrysler with a 242 cid 6 cyc. That truck is as tough as nails. I drove it for 10 years and at 170k , Like a fool I sold it. I got 20 mpg all the time I had it. I abused it and ran it 80 mph in third gear for money a few times. The guy that bought it still drives it and I sold it in 2000. So yeah, they are tough and as long as you keep the oil changed it won't bark at you for repairs.

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FDBYRD

10-02-2005 17:29:03




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
THE CJ-7 WAS MADE 1976 TO 1986. OVER 90% OF THEM HAD A 258 CI INLINE 6CYL. ABOUT 18 - 20 MPG.THE REST HAD A 304 V-8 [GAS HOG] OR A SMALL 4CYL.[WAY UNDER POWERED]. STAY AWAY FROM THE 1981 MODEL ,THEY CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS THAT YEAR & DIDN`T HAVE ALL THE BUGS WORKED OUT.



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Gene Davis (Ga.).

10-02-2005 17:23:24




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Rich Iowa, 10-02-2005 17:15:57  
Maybe it had the military style fording kit??



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wayne2

10-02-2005 20:37:41




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 Re: never seen this before in reply to Gene Davis (Ga.). , 10-02-2005 17:23:24  
He didn't say carb was under water so's why shouldn't it run. if water entered exhaust just get blowed out but will need replacing sooner(unless stainless steel)Jeep club i belonged to in late sixties used silicone on wires-but sure know a days thats factored in, spent alot of money I stay on asphalt now except when working 300 Case round nose which has pulled her share of nuckle heads out of MUD> Wayne

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