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HKL

09-14-2005 09:27:03




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I,m not all that much of a vintage tractor sort but I do enjoy visiting this site and was telling an old friend about it the other day. Well that started the conversation about old tractors and he was telling me about one that had cables coming off the steering shaft that ran down to the brakes and would apply either brake depending on how far wheel was turned ect. This got me curious and was wondering what kind of tractor this was or if it was something aftermarket or such. He said he thought it was a farmall and the only one he had ever seen with this setup.

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Mark - IN.

09-14-2005 17:57:02




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
Not familiar with that setup, mine are either foot or arm activated, but seems like a good setup. In any event, constantly turning with brakes and sometimes forgetting which tractor's which. Stomp the foot, no peddle, has lever. Grab for a lever, is no lever, has peddle. Works out in the end though. If I reached for the lever and wasn't one, then stomped for the peddle and wasn't one, would probably get so confused that would just fall off and get run over.

Try an old pre-oil pump Harley sometime. Clutch is left peddle, shifter on the tank, and pump handle on the other half of the tank which is the oil resevoir have to hand pump the gravity fed oil from the crank case back up into. Then cruise into a toll booth and forget that's the scooter you're on as reach back for the wallet, miss neutral, lift foot off the clutch to set on the ground, and scooter either takes off through the gate as you twist the throttle, or you fall over like that guy on the tricycle on the '60's show "Laugh In". Been there, done that too. Ahh, all just part of life.

Mark

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Nebraska Cowman

09-14-2005 15:41:52




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
And all things old are new again. I just picked up a BMX bike for the little cowman and it has steering activated brakes!



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Herron Farms

09-14-2005 10:39:32




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
The Oliver tractors in the 1940s or so also had brake assisted steering. Models 60, 70, and 80, maybe more.



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RAB

09-14-2005 14:10:46




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to Herron Farms, 09-14-2005 10:39:32  
Specifically the narrow rowcrops. regards, RAB



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Stan(PA)

09-14-2005 10:06:13




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
Farmall F series. The cables attached to the steering post, and applied the brake corresponding to turning direction. It was original, may have been an option, I"m not sure.



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Walter Squires

09-14-2005 10:05:32




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
An F-12 Farmall had that set-up.



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Red Dave

09-14-2005 10:04:30




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to HKL, 09-14-2005 09:27:03  
The original Farmall had that from the begining in 1923 or '24. Today they are known as a "Farmall Regular" since the Farmall name has been used for many other models of tractors too.

May have been others too, but I don't know for sure.



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Delbert from Lincoln

09-14-2005 12:47:58




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 Re: steering assist braking in reply to Red Dave, 09-14-2005 10:04:30  
The Farmall Regular, Farmall F-20, and Farmall F-30 all had cables on the outside of the frame that applied the brake to the wheel in a tight turn. The Farmall F-12 and F-14 had rods inside the channel iron frame rails that did the same thing. Many of these tractors were used with 2 row equipment, and planting or culivating, it was usually desirable to spin the tractor around 180 degrees, and go back to the other end with the rear wheel on one side running in the same track as the other one had ran. All of these old Farmalls had hand brakes, and usually the cultivator or planted also lifted with hand levers, so it made sense to have the brakes come on. In 39 when the letter series came out, Farmall went to foot brakes and abandoned the cables.

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