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Jerry L /AZ

09-08-2005 09:48:33




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I have 13.6 X 28 tires on my ford 850. Have been restoring it and have the tires/wheels off. There are industrial type wheel weights on the inside of the wheels 2 piece type weighing 223lbs. each. I bought new wheels did the reserch and a 13.6 tire should take a 12" wheel ok found two 12x28 wheels realy good price. got them home and guess what! the old wheels are 10x28. I found that the wheel weights are short or the wheel is too deep. How bad have messed up. the weights sit on the inside of the rim and with the wheel center in place there is 1 3/4" gap between the wheel lug and the wheel center. Can I make some spacers to go between the the two ? will that weaken the wheel? Thanks for your advice Jer

Ok Allen heres your chance to get even !!!!

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RodinNS

09-08-2005 18:43:56




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 09-08-2005 09:48:33  
Hi Jerry,

I'm not sure I understand quite what the hitch is just yet. Some pics would sure help.
Are the weights hanging up on the drop center of the wheel? The way I understand things, the weights are bolted to the center dish. The drop center on the wheel is all I can think of to cause a hang up. However, with the wider wheel, the lug placement could be different relative to the wheel's width. This could cause clearance issues with the fenders, or change wheel spacing. Mabey you will have to flip the centers around, or put the weights on the outside etc. Again, I'm not clear on what the hang-up is.
I would be leary of making a spacer to fill the gap between the center and the lugs, unless it was a thick piece of plate in a large ring. Basically, just a thicker center. That would weigh more than the present weights you have..... Dunno, I just worry about the overhung load being placed on those poor old bolts and wheel lugs if you go putting small spacers in there to take up the space. Mabey if I understand exactly what you're up to I'll have more worthwhile to say.

Rod

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37 chief

09-08-2005 15:37:57




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 09-08-2005 09:48:33  
Do you really need the weights? I wish I could help. Like someone else said you need pictures.I don't think you messed up consider it a learing experience. You messup when you do the exact thing again. Stan



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TomTX

09-08-2005 13:51:37




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 09-08-2005 09:48:33  
Jerry, I can't follow your description. Post more info or a picture. Maybe we can help you.



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JMS/MN

09-08-2005 11:58:23




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 09-08-2005 09:48:33  
If you had 12 inch (13.6) tires on a 10 inch rim- that was out of line. You can go one inch wider or narrower on a rim. Your other problem I don't understand- are you saying that the bolt pattern of the wheel does not match that of the tractor, and you want an adapter for that? Not going to happen. Or does the wheel mount on the tractor and the weights just seem to fit a bit farther out, but still bolt up to the wheel? That is not a problem.

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Jerry L/AZ

09-08-2005 16:18:27




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to JMS/MN, 09-08-2005 11:58:23  
let me see if I can explain this better. put the weights on a plate so the wheel will go down over the weights. put the wheel center on top of the weights now slide the wheel down over it all they are all sandwitched togeather the the bolt go's thru the wheel lugs and wheel center and then the weights then nuts and tighten. thats how they go on the 10" wheels. same for the 12" wheel except that the wheel now sits on the weights bottom lip and there is 1 3/4" gap between the wheel center and the wheel lugs. I know I need a spacer but where to put it can I take a 8" bolt and bolt the wheel center to the wheel and then use a spacer between the wheel center and weight? Jer

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Allan in NE

09-08-2005 10:25:44




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 09-08-2005 09:48:33  
Get Even?

Whatzya talkin' 'bout? You could build it upsidedown and I wouldn't know the difference. Fords just 'taint my strong suit. :>)

Hope ya get 'er figured out,

Allan



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Jerry L /AZ

09-08-2005 11:05:20




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Allan in NE, 09-08-2005 10:25:44  
Thanks, Allen you are just too kind. how is everything up there in nebr.? Have a good day Jer



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jimNCal

09-08-2005 19:22:20




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 Re: I think I messed up in reply to Jerry L /AZ , 09-08-2005 11:05:20  
Jer, As was already said, the 10" rims were technically too narrow for a 13.6 tire. Now that you have the proper rims, the weights that were made to nest inside the 10" CAN be spaced just like you are thinking. Use schedule 80 pipe cut to proper length in between, and the proper bolt length, crank 'em tight, and go. jim



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