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Birds nest in gas tank

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Chad Franke

08-29-2005 06:47:35




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Ok, here's the deal, I've got a W9 project, motor is stuck, working on that. In the mean time, working on other parts that need it, first up, bird's nest in the gas tank. The W9 has a baffle in it that isn't letting me just pull it out. Will muratic acid soften the grass/weeds up enough to let it "move"? As you know, most birds build nests that are woven, so washing out with water isn't working. Any tips?

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RustyFarmall

08-29-2005 17:53:38




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
It seems as though most of these guys want you to butcher up a perfectly good tank, which is just about the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Dumping rocks in there won't work either because some of those rocks will become lodged behind the baffle and you will never get them out. Muriatic acid is still your best bet. I have used that method on two different tractors now with very good results, and that was at least 5 years ago. If rusting was to be a problem I am sure it would have reared its ugly head by now. Apparently the acid will not dissolve the terne coating, or my tanks did not have the coating, or the coating was already gone, whatever, but I have not had any problems since cleaning the two tanks with muriatic acid.

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doogdoog

08-29-2005 20:42:10




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-29-2005 17:53:38  
Aloha, Muriatic acid will eat the galvanized or zinc coating in the tank (if it has any). I would just use a wire with a hook on the end to pull out the nest.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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Dr. Chris

08-29-2005 17:34:56




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
Pour in some gas and throw in a match.



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John S-B

08-30-2005 07:50:33




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Dr. Chris, 08-29-2005 17:34:56  
Obviously your doctorate it not in science. Putting in gasoline is dangerous and will not work. The gasoline fumes will only burn at the filler neck not inside the tank. The mixture will be too rich to burn, no oxygen in the tank. That is why underground fuel tank can't explode like you see in the movies.



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Dr. Chris

08-30-2005 08:14:38




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to John S-B, 08-30-2005 07:50:33  
Right..... that was a joke.



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TommyD

08-29-2005 13:46:25




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
Get the nest nice and dry, fill the tank 1/4 to 1/3 with bite size rocks and let it spin in a cement mixer for 30 minutes. That'll mulch the nest and also get rid of any flaking paint or rust. I use pee stone on motorcycle tanks, but you might get away with something bigger.



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BigMarv1085

08-29-2005 08:20:02




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
If you could get the nest apart with mechanical fingers, stiff wire with a hook on the end, or stick. Take tank and turn upside down a flush with water. But don't put miratic acid in it or you will be fighting rust forever.



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Coloken

08-29-2005 07:06:25




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
Hi Chad, sure that isn't a mouse? A steam cleaner might loosen it up. I played with one in a radiator once. Recomend you give up and cut a hole big enough to get your hand in. Cut a flap, 3 sides, and bend it back to weld/solder when clean. Now I don't feel so bad that you beat me to that old tractor. :-)
Kennyp



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Chad Franke

08-29-2005 08:45:23




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Coloken, 08-29-2005 07:06:25  
I was hoping to avoid cutting, since the tank is near perfect outside, but if I have too...

I've done the pressure washer, pulled at it with my grab tool, was thinking about making a wire hook or screw type deal, stick it in, spin, pull out.

Don't feel too bad about the tractor, plenty of work for the cheap price...found out the carburator had been disassembled and "partially" reassembled...parts missing. If you are looking for a project, the guy I got those from had a couple other Farmalls. If you are ever down Keenesburg way, let me know.

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Coloken

08-29-2005 10:33:32




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 08:45:23  
Just joking. I can't pull wrenches any more. Need to get rid of the 300 round nose Case I have. Or trade it for some thing easier to climb up on.



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RustyFarmall

08-29-2005 06:58:02




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to Chad Franke, 08-29-2005 06:47:35  
I don't know if the acid will dissolve the bird nest, but it sure won't hurt to try, and at least the acid will give you a nice clean tank.



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Bob

08-29-2005 07:17:16




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 Re: Birds nest in gas tank in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-29-2005 06:58:02  
The tank is tin-lead-lined on the inside (Terne metal).

If the inside is clean and shiny, outside of the bird's nest, the acid will remove the coating, and the tank will be, forevermore subject to rusting.

If I couldn't do this myself, I would take it to a radiator shop, have them cut a hole in and inconspicuous place (bottom?) clean it out, and then solder a piece of copper sheet over the hole, as a patch. I have seen this done a number of times.

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