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BrandonBaxter

08-09-2005 16:45:17




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I am trying to salvage a 1970 (?) White Mighty Hoe/Loader. It has a six cylinder diesel engine. It is pushing coolant into the oil. Any ideas regarding this problem ? (other than the obvious blown head gasket, warped head)

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BrandonBaxter

08-10-2005 07:04:25




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 Re: White Mighty Hoe in reply to BrandonBaxter, 08-09-2005 16:45:17  
Thanks all for the info. I will try to get the serial number to post. I pulled the head off last night and have it at a machine shop that is going to magnaflux it to see if there are obvious problems there. To be honest, the head gasket did not look that bad. I did have a exhaust valve that was stuck open on six, though.

I have also pulled the oil pan and did not see any obvious cracks in the bottom of the block. Filled up the bottom half of the block and didn't see any leaks.

Where are these o-rings/seals? On the inside of the sleeves? And how do I know if there shot? Any obvious signs?

I'm in Utah. Hot summers. Freezing winters. I don't have the hours with me right now, but I know it was worked hard before it was abandoned for the past few years.

Thanks for your responses.

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evielboweviel

08-10-2005 14:11:59




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 Re: White Mighty Hoe in reply to BrandonBaxter, 08-10-2005 07:04:25  
you got it that far down pull the sleeves and replace the orings
Ron



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J. Schwiebert

08-09-2005 18:31:14




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 Re: White Mighty Hoe in reply to BrandonBaxter, 08-09-2005 16:45:17  
First of all there was more than one size of these which also means there is more than one size of engine. Do you have a serial number or casting numbers off the block? Also you can have a hole in the sleeve which is again caused by poor coolant system maintaince. Questions?



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astaylor

08-09-2005 17:43:34




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 Re: White Mighty Hoe in reply to BrandonBaxter, 08-09-2005 16:45:17  
Sir,

I too am the proud owner of a 2 63 15 MH with the 6, a Reverse-o-torque trans etc... These are wet sleeved motors, they are real solid and all but through the years parts will begin to fail. There are three areas to address when you find coolant in your oil, the head gaskets, the cylinders / seals or the block are the points of failure. I have just run through mine for the same reason and found the seal on the bottom of #3 went out. It is most likely a strait forward fix which is the good news, the bad news is that it will require a teardown. Start with a compression check, fairly easy due to fact that the head has plug holes, if you find a cylinder that is off by say 20% or more then you have your problem located, only question is weather it is the head, gasket or cylinder parts. If all cylinders are equal or close then look at a rebuild kit, you are going to be inside and might as well freshen up the unit while you are there. A few questions, what are the hours on the motor, where are you located in the states and how much do you use the rig? These are real popular motors due to their being used on Oliver’s from the 1650 up to the 1800 or so, and parts are out there. I have a list of dealers with some parts but I am in Florida, you can also contact Agco, they are the new owners of White, Oliver, MM and MF, they have a list of dealers in your area and are on the www. Also this forum is real good for the transfer of knowledge and parts, find the problem and repost for parts. I also have the parts, service and operators manual if you need them for the price of coping them and S&H, just let me know.

AT

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oliverfan

08-09-2005 17:22:37




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 Re: White Mighty Hoe in reply to BrandonBaxter, 08-09-2005 16:45:17  
It could be what you listed, but I would more than likely guess it has bad "O" rings on the bottom of the sleeves. Electrolis????? ?? (spelling)



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