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Gonna Be A Long Day

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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 05:40:41




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Mornin' fellas,

I'm startin' to think I'm my own worst enemy.

After searchin' high and low for the past two years, I finally found the packer I wanted (similair to this one). The horsey people like to use these things to dress their ridin' areanas, so they are kinda hard to find in this country anymore.

Anyhow, the gizmo came in on the semi late last night. Gotta go buy some used tires right off the bat before I can even drag the silly thing off the truck.

Then, I gotta tow the jasper 'bout a million miles out into the country where the real work starts. Have to swap those two sets of roller assemblies end for end.

Don't know why the dealers orginally set 'em up backwards like this with the crowfeet on the front? Hmmmmm m, I'm sweatin' already and I haven't even finished my first cup o coffee. :>(

Allan

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Don L C

08-09-2005 17:29:29




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
Allen ---

You know that rig you just bought, looks to me like the rollers thats on the front would do a better job in lumpy soil then the rear ones..... ..I would try it like it is, you may be suprised.... Don S.W. Ohio



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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 17:40:13




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Don L C, 08-09-2005 17:29:29  
Hi Don,

Yes, I know what you're saying. But, I'm just going by past experience.

Even if I would happen to get the packer within 2 hours behind the plow and even with the smooth ones on the front, they would start to ball up with mud.

Maybe it is just the soil here, dunno. I sure agree tho, those crowsfeet are really meant to tear things up.

Allan



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37 chief

08-09-2005 15:53:49




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
No mater how bad it is, I would rather be changing the roller assemblies on that machine rather than sitting in front of this computor at work getting ready to put in another 8 hours at my night job. This is after a day of work in my discing, and mowing business. I guess I should be happy I have a job. Stan in calif.



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Turtle H

08-09-2005 14:50:28




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
What! No tractor in the picture? You"re slipping



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farmweld

08-09-2005 13:16:52




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
hey, just keep us in mind, an try not to work too hard, but do have fun :)
farmweld



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TP from Central PA

08-09-2005 07:45:55




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
We borrowed the neighbors Brillion Cultimulcher which was setup close to that..... .....Solid packers in the front, crowfoots in the rear. It worked good for finishing up hayfields, but a waste of fuel otherwise IMO. Not to mention the crowsfoot wheels sure didn"t like our rocks. We found we had just as nice of seed bed for row crops pulling a cultipacker with solid teeth behind the disk. After we plowed, one trip with the disk and packer and then the planter pulled in the field.

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jimont

08-09-2005 06:21:44




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
Allan - Those are one of the best pieces of equipment to have ever come down the pike. We're still using our JD 950 that I bought in 1972. Touch wood , haven't changed a bearing yet, just replaced tooth points and shimmed up the rollers.That machine has been over literally thousands of acres since new.



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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 06:38:12




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to jimont, 08-09-2005 06:21:44  
I'm with ya on that one, Jim.

Just can't imagine anyone not using these things and why they lost favor (probably fuel costs again)?

Allan



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Coloken

08-09-2005 06:17:08




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
Not my line of work machine, but are you sure that isn't set up correct?



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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 06:34:25




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Coloken, 08-09-2005 06:17:08  
Mornin' Ya ol' devil!

Maybe it is the soil type here, dunno.

But if those smooth rollers are on the back, they are always running in damp soil which the spring teeth/diamond points have kicked up. They gum up and wear the cleaner knives like crazy. If they are up front, they are running in "dryer" soil all the time and just run cleaner and don't "ball up".

But the big benefit of having them set up with the smoothes on the front is that the smoothes are way heavier and they tend to "push" the soil and "level" the land like nobody's business. They work kinda like a leveling bar on the old harrow.

I think these packers are probably my favorite implement. Takes a total nightmare and converts it to a perfect seedbed in one pass.

Pretty sure they were designed fer dummies like me. :>)

Allan

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Coloken

08-09-2005 07:41:04




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 06:34:25  
I'll be danged, I believe you 100 percent under those conditions. Under dry conditions you would want the front one to gouge the dirt loose and the back to pack it back down. Tell the maker to make them "quick-detatch".



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Jerry L /AZ

08-09-2005 06:09:27




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
morning there Mr. Allen; nice piece of equipment. I don't understand what you need a packer for just the other day you said the ground was too hard. what do you do plow it up and then pack it down again? why? and you owe me a quarter you said the H word Hmmmmm. alfalfa hay, oats and now a arena conditioner really makes you wonder and you did mention a coral are you going to get the wifey a little 300 so she can do her chores? don't for get her manure spreader. Life is just great, have another cup of coffee. and have a wonderfull Day..... .....Jer

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Jerry L /AZ

08-09-2005 06:06:55




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
morning there Mr. Allen; nice piece of equipment. I don't understand what you need a packer for just the other day you said the ground was too hard. what do you do plow it up and then pack it down again? why? and you owe me a quarter you said the H word Hmmmmm. alfalfa hay, oats and now a arena conditioner really makes and you did mention a coral are you going to get the wifey a little 300 so she can do her chores? don't for get her manure spreader. Life is just great, have another cup of coffee. and have a wonderfull Day..... .....Jer

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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 06:17:43




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Jerry L /AZ, 08-09-2005 06:06:55  
Hi Jer,

Different field, different game. Need the packer for 65 acres of this hooey. :>)

Yes, you're right. Wife is hot on the trail of a saddle breed cuttin' horse. Had no idea those things were that expensive! Groan! :>(

Allan

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Don L C

08-09-2005 17:46:34




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 06:17:43  
Allen ---

Iam 69 years old, born and raised on a dairy farm....I have never seen a rougher plowed field as your picture..... glad I didn't have to drive my farmall M over that....Is that unusuall conditions even for you?

Don S.W. Ohio



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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 18:02:48




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Don L C, 08-09-2005 17:46:34  
Don,

Too derned dry and 35 year old sod to boot. But really, I want it that way.

Fall plowin' is gamblin' with wind erosion out here in the plains.

Allan



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RickL

08-09-2005 06:04:30




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
Why are you switching the rollers? If you are drilling to seed I dont even bother with the roller. The only roller I do use once in a while is a disc mulcher. The wheat field you did in picture I would of notill it and saved the moisture this time and you would have already been done. Or you could of had the unit that spread your fertilizer do it when he was ther in the same trip. You will learn that over time as several trips over the same field will get old. good luck been there done that

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Bob M

08-09-2005 06:03:17




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
G'morning Alan -

Back in the day, for seed bed prep we ran 'em like this (sheeps foot roll in the front) to better bust up chunked soil. We also usually chained a 12' length of 8" schedule 80 steel pipe at the rear for final smoothing. It worked great!

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James2

08-09-2005 09:31:17




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Bob M, 08-09-2005 06:03:17  
I'm with you Bob, I've always seen them setup with the crowfeet in the front, solid rolls in the rear. Same reason too, break up the biggest clods with the crows and have the rear finish the job; ie, break up the resized "smaller" clods, leaving a smoother finish.



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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 07:01:51




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Bob M, 08-09-2005 06:03:17  
Dunno Bob,

This one in the picture is settin' on a lot up in Oregon somewhere. Only picture I could find of a Dunham Lehr.

Can't wait to hook the 686 on 'er next year. This rascal should produce a little black smoke! :>)

Allan



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Old Pokey

08-09-2005 17:20:26




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 07:01:51  
Ya hit the nail on the head there Allan. In oregon we have the crowsfeet in front and the smoothies in the back. But there are'nt all that many with crowsfeet anymore. Most all are smooties front and rear. But then, most of our soils here are'nt all that sticky either. I do like your thinkin about the moist dirt sticking behind the springteeth though. Might have ta rethink this absense of crowsfeet around here.

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Allan in NE

08-09-2005 05:53:37




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:40:41  
Whoops!

Should have put this on the implement board. Sorry!

Allan



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edchainsaw

08-09-2005 20:54:16




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 Re: Gonna Be A Long Day in reply to Allan in NE, 08-09-2005 05:53:37  
we have 2 25 ft cultimulchers.... they both have rollers and no crowsfeet. all of the ones that have crowsfeet have them on the front to make a smother bed.. but I know what he's saying about the sticky soils gathering on the rollers. we just got so we barely set the tines.

and we dont use ours much anymore but like they say if you have a problem... it will fix it. :)
and they dont take that much power either = I dont know where all that came from.

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