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Delbert

08-04-2005 18:17:56




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Allan in some of your messages about your farm you said the wild oats was real bad this year. What my question is will that compete with your new alalfa this fall? Will it be a problem come next spring? I know here in Kansas it can be a real problem in wheat. Don,t mean to throw a monkey wrench in the works i am wondering maybe it would make a cover crop. I remmber one year we chiseled some wheat ground and the wild oats started on it so we disced it ever so often went a head and planted it to wheat and had so much wild oats in it the elavator wouldn,t take it. The best to you. Delbert

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 19:45:23




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Delbert, 08-04-2005 18:17:56  
Hi Delbert,

No, what I was talking about was old fashioned cheat grass or "military grass". Probably not what you are thinking of?

Anyway, it is a cool, short season grass. Usually only see it in the spring.

Heck, I dunno what is gonna show up out there; first go around and all. I just hope the alfalfa takes a bite. :>)

Allan



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Loren

08-04-2005 20:36:38




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 19:45:23  
I'd like for someone to explain the reason for a "cover crop" and what it consists of. Please. Loren.



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Allan in NE

08-05-2005 03:49:36




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Loren, 08-04-2005 20:36:38  
Hi Loren,

A "cover" or "nurse" crop is planted with and is used to "jump start" a new seeding of hay (usually alfalfa) and can be almost any fast growing/fast maturing crop that will go from seed to the bin in a relatively short period of time.

In other words, it is used to make use of the season while the new hay crop is taking time to establish itself. It also serves to cut down on erosion in certain locales during this "nursery" time while the hay crop is rooting itself down.

Allan

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Loren

08-05-2005 22:25:55




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 Thanks Allan in reply to Allan in NE, 08-05-2005 03:49:36  
Assume a cover is used only on a few nurse crops? Also assume it's for the most part for leafy plants? Grass hay crop wouldn't use such a thing, right? Doesn't the nurse sometimes interfere with the harvest of the cover or does the cover not get harvested?



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Allan in NE

08-06-2005 04:10:10




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 Re: Thanks Allan in reply to Loren, 08-05-2005 22:25:55  
Hi Loren,

The cover crop tends to shade and canopie the baby crop so that it doesn't do much until the cover is removed. Once the cover is taken off and the sunlight hits the new crop, away she goes.

Allan



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Bobl1958

08-05-2005 11:37:27




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Allan in NE, 08-05-2005 03:49:36  
Also helps hold down the weeds while the nurse crop gets established. Bob



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Brokenwrench

08-05-2005 04:32:58




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Allan in NE, 08-05-2005 03:49:36  
Mornin Allan,
I thought it was interesting to find out that they seed oats in with sugar beets. We`re a ways north and east of the southern Red River Valley here, and its only been a few years that they`ve been planting beets around here. I`ve been told that the beets do real well in our light, irrigated soil. Anyway the land around me (120 acres) was rotated out of alfalfa and into beets for a year, when the stuff started to come up, it came up pure oats. Then well before the oats headed out, at maybe a foot tall, they came in sprayed it, and cultivated it out. I don`t know,
maybe this is common knowledge, but I found it kinda interesting. I used to live up in the northern Red River Valley, and can"t say I remeber seeing that done. It was wierd looking, seeing oats seeded in with a row crop. Take care and good luck with the seeding Brokenwrench

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Allan in NE

08-05-2005 04:50:21




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 Re: question for Allan in ne in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-05-2005 04:32:58  
Hmmm,

That's gotta be a new wrinkle, don't ya think? I've never heard of that one either.

I know that the beets are at their most vulnerable when small, so maybe they've figured out a new plan to keep the wind off 'em or something.

They are really doing some strange things with the sprays nowadays.

BTW, most of our certified seed comes down out of that Red River Valley. Old ocean floor to an old ocean floor thing, I guess. :>)

Allan

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