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DJL

07-27-2005 21:45:12




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I'm looking at purchasing a new flatbed trailer to tow behing a Chevy 1/2ton Z71 truck. The truck is equipped with aftermarket air springs and I'd prefer to stay with a bumper hitch. I generally haul a narrow front JD B or possibly an IH H tractor. Any advice on trailer to purchase? Is a standard car hauler with 3500lb axles heavy enough? Any comments on dovetail versus tilt bed? How about brand preferences for this? Thanks

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Don-Wi

07-28-2005 21:37:28




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
Get yourself a bigger truck!! I pull loads of hay with my f150, but I don't like doing it. The most I've pulled w/ my truck is about 7-8 ton, but it was extremely slow going, and I knew if I had to stop, I'd just plow right through it. I won't even consider pulling my 1600 around until I get a bigger truck. I plan to get atleast a F250, w/ gooseneck.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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David Norton

07-28-2005 07:44:16




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
I haul a JD 530 with a Z71 4wd Avalanche on a 7000GVWR aluminum utility trailer with electric brakes both axles.

Total weight of tractor + trailer just under 7k#. Your total weight with a B will be less.

Works just fine... but gas mileage stinks... not much better than 4 up hills



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sjh

07-28-2005 07:14:25




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
I hope you mean reese hitch not bumper hitch.



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john in la

07-28-2005 06:04:19




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
I only have one thing to say when asked what truck/trailer should be used to pull x tractor.

Remember that pulling a trailer is the easy part.
Stopping and or controlling it in every situation is the hard part.

Find out the weight of your tractor and every thing else you want to haul.
Add this to the trailer weight and make sure you get a trailer with a GVWR to cover this amount.

Now add this loaded trailer weight to your truck weight and make sure your truck has a GCWR to cover this.

I see many many weekend haulers/RVer's going down the road that are pulling a load that is over weight for their vehicle. They say.... I do not drive fast; I only go short distances; ect.... It may go down the road fine for years but God help them if they ever get into that one situation where they need to stop and stop NOW.

It may not happen today or even this year or at all; but if they ever get to a place where say its raining; dark; curve in road; some fool blows a tire in front of them and they need to stop they are going to be in trouble.

Remember the next person you see wearing the state police white sheet on the side of the road may be your family member. Have this in the back of your head when choosing a truck and trailer or allowing someone else to tell you what size truck/trailer you need.

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txgrn

07-28-2005 04:56:57




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
I have hauled my tractors up to 52hp on my common everyday 16' tandem axle flatbed (with side rails....for strength). It has dual 3500lb axles and I have hauled a cord of green oak and my latest was a 4600 Ford about 300 miles. It (the tractor) weighs about 5000" with the rops and top. Didn't even know it was back there...pretty much.

They are common in N. Texas and maybe your area too. I paid $600 for mine lotta years ago but still they would be your most economical choice (I think) and are very reliable.

I made ramps for mine so that I can easily drive my stuff on. I also sometimes haul 3ea 5x6 round bales of hay and that is around a 5000 lb load.

Pulled with 1/2 ton p/u's with no problem. My current 360 Dodge automatic is the best puller I ever had. It can really pull that load and not worry about it.

But..... you need to check on brakes. Some states have funny laws. Mine has no brakes (not required) so the truck has to do the stopping and when you are hauling you need to keep that in mind....drive defensively knowing that in a tight you are going to need extra room to stop....course I don't drive 70 mph either....more like 45 to 50.

HTH.

Mark

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RustyFarmall

07-28-2005 06:10:19




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to txgrn, 07-28-2005 04:56:57  
Mark, considering that the trailer itself weighs about 2,000# you are totally maxed out with just about everything you haul, and you are probably exceeding the rated capacity of your hitch. The fact that you have been getting away with it is only because the trailer mfgr. is required by law to build some reserve strength into the trailer. I have hauled similar loads on similar trailers, pulled behind a 1/2 ton pick-up. I could not run at the speed limit on interstate highways because the trailer would start swaying and transfer that motion to the truck. It got real scary real quick. Just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should. Whenever I see someone else doing what I have described, I give them a wide berth, I do not want to be involved in the crash that is certain to happen, sooner or later.

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txgrn

07-28-2005 06:52:38




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-28-2005 06:10:19  
Rusty,

The caviot, as mentioned, is the speed. When pulling a loaded trailer I keep her down.

One of my peeves is to see a loaded trailer on the interstate passing me (doing the speed limit), or just running the speed limit, whether the trailer is made for it or not.

And, other than the one trip mentioned, most of my trips are within a 25 mile radius and on farm to market roads.

I forgot to mention that when I pull heavy loads I use my equalizer hitch to keep everything nice and stable and it really keeps her smooth, none of that seesawing. It's rated for 10,000#.

Best,

Mark

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T_Bone

07-27-2005 22:53:18




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 Re: tractor hauling question in reply to DJL, 07-27-2005 21:45:12  
Hi DJL,

Your H is about 4300# wet and the B about 4600# wet so with trailer about 6600lbs GVW. A 7000lb GVWR trailer rating would just barely cover you.

Also that's a big load for your 1/2 ton to handle. If you don't pull the load easy, your maintance cost (repairs) would be very high.

Now that's if your driving easy and no panic stops, load weight is placed correctly. Get into a problem and your maximum load will now try and eat your lunch very quickly.

Suggestion, How about a older 1-ton just to pull the trailer around. Then you could go with a GN flatbed which will pull alot easier vs a bumper pull and if set up correct could haul both tractors at the same time.

T_Bone

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