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Joe Bloggs

07-19-2005 18:51:36




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I have about 40 galons of gas thats about 7 years old. this stuff will barely burn. what should I do with it. add more new gas to liven it up or drain it all out and try to find some where that will take it without me filling out alot of paperwork.




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Nolan

07-21-2005 02:55:46




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
Adding new gas to old gas just makes a bigger tank of old gas. Old trick I learned years ago from a lawnmower mechanic is that you can effectively freshen old stale gas with carburetor cleaner. I've used it to good effect a number of times myself.

Lawnmowers and such burn just about anything, so I'd probably use the "freshened" gas in them. I wouldn't put it in any engine with fuel injection, 2-stroke, or anything else even faintly tempermental.

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Bus Driver

07-20-2005 15:36:15




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
I would use it in my Diesel tractor. About 90% Diesel fuel, 10% old gasoline for the mixture.



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tsw

07-20-2005 11:20:03




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
Well, you could do like a guy did around here about 20 years back. He used to pour lines of it down his driveway and light them for the fun of it. He even taught his kids how to do it. Was all in good fun till the youngest one (about 4) decided it would be fun to run the line of gas all through the house too. Burnt the place to the ground and nearly killed his brother who was inside napping. Bet it was fun explaining it to the insurance company!

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bryan in iowa

07-20-2005 06:13:43




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
Get rid of it ! Don't try to make any cocktails to use it in an engine ,,,unless your using gallon at a time to dilute it . I run auto/truck repair shop . Old gas is one of the worst things for a carburetor .



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Mike Van

07-20-2005 02:17:28




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
You could just let it evaporate out of open containers too. I wouldn't pay some huge fee to dispose of it, thats just me.



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NC Wayne

07-19-2005 22:03:43




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
Go to NAPA and get some Sea Foam. I'm not much on all these fancy additives on the market nowdays but this stuff really works. I've used it in several things over the years that had old gas in them, but the oldest stuff I ever tried it on was in a a forklift. When it was given to me it had been sitting for nearly ten years with a couple of gallons of old gas in it and no easy way to get it out. When I got it it wouldn't start for anything. I checked out the carb and fortunately it was clean and dry with just a very small amount of gum in the bottom of the bowl. Still I cleaned the carb and added several gallons of new gas and a couple of cans of the Sea Foam to the old stuff in the tank and the old girl fired right up. It smoked and stank for a while til I ran enough new stuff through it to get all the old gas diluted and ran through, but it would run. That's been nearly 8 years ago and I've had absolutely no problems with it at alltoday. I can walk out to the shop right now and it'll fire right up. With the amount you've got I'd try adding it say a gallon or two at a time in with at least three times the amount in new gas and at the same time put in a can of the Sea Foam and I don't think you'll ever know the difference. I wouldn't use it in a new car or anything fuel injected because the tollarances in them are so tight that there could be the possibility of a little "gum" getting in them from the old stuff but in an older engine with a carb it shouldn't be a problem.

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shannon from ohio

07-19-2005 21:46:37




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
One thing you DON'T want to do is use stale gas in ANY internal combustion engine,PERIOD!! First of all it will set up in the carburetor and cause problems.Second of all and i seen it happen in a friends truck.He used stale gas in it and within a week or so he lost compression in most of the cylinders.Cause was the stale gas got on intake valve stems and stuck them open,Some seized up and bent the pushrods.This was on a 460 ford engine....I'd find a proper way to dispose of it(EPA APPROVED)

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Redmud

07-19-2005 19:07:09




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
40 gallons! there ain't no way I would dump it, dang stuff cost to much. I would burn it in my tractor if I had to do it a gallon at a time.



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old

07-19-2005 19:03:44




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
keep it around for solvent for cleaning parts, its no good to use in an engine even if you put new gas in with it. Also works good as a weed killer depending on if you live out far enough to get away with useing it that way.



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ErnieDD

07-19-2005 19:03:08




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to Joe Bloggs, 07-19-2005 18:51:36  
My experience with old gas is as follows. In a carburator it will work if mixed with new, add a little oil to lube valves, they will tend to stick or they did on my old wisconsin combine engine.

Fuel injected, can not recommend, 1/2 gallon of 2 year old gas just about finished off the fuel filter.

You are talking about $90 of fuel, I would find someway to run it. Couple cans of STP or similar fuel cleaner/conditioner might do it.

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KRUSS

07-20-2005 06:24:30




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to ErnieDD, 07-19-2005 19:03:08  
if you burn any amount of it in any engine you have $90 worth of trouble. cleaning solvent is one use. get rid of it some way before it costs more. you may get rid of it in some engines a half a gallon at a time, but is it really worth it?? costly as it is they still make the stuff.



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chris sweetland

07-20-2005 06:38:03




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 Re: old / stale gas in reply to KRUSS, 07-20-2005 06:24:30  
send it my way i could get rid of it for free just using it around here i burn alot of brush old gas or diesel usally starts the piles. i could use it for a solvent too its great for going over areas after sandblasting gets all the little stuff up and any grease left behind



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