Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

Just a tad confused

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Errin OH

07-15-2005 08:16:20




Report to Moderator

I have a project that I am nearing completetion that uses a GM 305 for a power plant. The donor come from a 1973 pickup (not orig). I kept the engine wiring harness (clean and uncut) to build the new one from. Last night I strip'd it out and began to wire it up. Two question came up that I haven't quite figured out.

1. The amp meter, I do not recall if the donnor had a light or gage, but I do not see how they are reading the current. The batt goes directly to the alt (bout 20" 10g wire). Could they have used the wire as the shunt and connected a gage accross it? I guess I should install a second wire from the batt as my afrmrkt gage has an internal shunt???

2. To make the charging system work I will have to connect one of the terminals to ing side of the switch. I looked through the gallery for wiring dia's. I have found one uses a simple light and the other a diode. I see the need for the diode, prevent feed back, but wonder if you need the resistamce of the bulb to excite the alt????

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Jon Hagen

07-15-2005 13:12:06




Report to Moderator
 Re: Just a tad confused in reply to Errin OH, 07-15-2005 08:16:20  
The early ones that used an ammeter had an external shunt as you suspect,later ones used a voltmeter.
With your internal shunt ammeter,connect the Bat terminal of the alternator and any accessory load(bat terminal of ign switch) to one side of the ammeter. hook battery voltage( taken from bat terminal of starter solenoid) to the other ammeter terminal.

With the alternator exciter wiring you can go three ways.
1 use an ignition switch that has seperate ign and acc terminals with the alt #1 exciter terminal connected to the acc terminal,this will break the connection between the alternator exciter terminal and the ignition coil to prevent run on.
2 use a diode to prevent power backflow from the alt exciter terminal to the common ign/exciter terminal on the switch.
3 replace the diode with an indicator light,this will work as a resistor to restrict backfeed to a level too low to power the ignition coil. this is my favorite method,as the light serves as a charge indicator and a replacement is avalible at any auto parts store or department.
Being the wiring is pre electronic ignition,it will have a resistance wire for the ignition primary . The cleanest and most reliable is to wire in a ceramic ignition resistor(1.5 ohm ?) to replace the in harness resistance wire.
Don't forget that the alternator sense wire #2,needs to be connected to full battery voltage so the regulator can sense system voltage and adjust the alternator to maintain normal voltage level at the battery. In most cases,putting a ring terminal on the #2 sense wire and connecting it to the BAT stud on the alternator rear works best.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
GregCo

07-15-2005 09:21:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Just a tad confused in reply to Errin OH, 07-15-2005 08:16:20  
What alternator are you using? I have a diagram for a 10 SI if it will help.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Coloken

07-15-2005 08:48:58




Report to Moderator
 Re: Just a tad confused in reply to Errin OH, 07-15-2005 08:16:20  
Why not just use a volt meter? Just hook it any where from hot to ground. You once get used to one, they are as good as an amp meter. My 90 Dakota is factory equiped with one.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy