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OT, V8 Maverick

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ChadS

07-04-2005 10:41:22




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Has anyone ever put a 302 in a maverick?. I got a solid 1970 model, 6 cyl, auto, and I got a 302 with AOD, I want to put in. Looks tight for the exhaust manifolds,do you think cast manifolds from a 88 Tbird would work? Steering column clearence problems? The car already has a 8.8 rear end from a ford ranger, tired of seeing the car sitting still. any ideas? ChadS




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ChadS

07-05-2005 15:47:42




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 Photo of the 70 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
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Here it is, paint is rough, but no rust holes, underbody is still very very good, still has most of the paint under it! Tires flat, brakes shot, interior shot, total restoration is in need. But, a good, pretty straight ol car still! Engine still runs, tranny works, but it is screaming, HEY! I could of had a V8!!!!! with an overdrive! Dual 2-1/2 exhaust pipes out the back, and Im thinking Black, with white stripes like the boss mustangs had along the sides. I have a sandblaser that can make it look grey pretty quick, and put it in primer and start body work, just days and days of taping, sealing, and keeping the sand out of where its not supposed to. Lot of these cars you see the trunk is gone, quarter panels and lower fender in front of the doors are gone, but this one seems to be all there no bubbles in the paint no where. Ive been in denial for about 4 years now,,, I went to building tractors into pullers, and I used to have a pretty fast car, or truck to make the grocery store drives a bit more exciting, Ive since sold all my hot rods, and kinda settled down, but bored stiff driving a "regular" car. This would be my 2nd restoration of an automobile fashion, sometimes cant always play with a tractor, thanks for looking. ChadS

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Jrry

07-05-2005 13:18:09




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
My wife had a Maverick with a 302 V8 in it from the factory. I was going to replace the water pump in it once but decided to take it to a mechanic. After two days the mechanic had it done. The hour book would only let him charge for a conventional water pump change. He asked me what he had done to deserve that job. LOL



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Bob - MI

07-05-2005 13:00:54




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
Friend had a factory 302 that the local dealer had an add-on package of Mickey Thompson accessories. Side pipes and BIG rear tires. Yellow paint with black graphics.

Yes, it can be done.



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the tractor vet

07-04-2005 20:44:10




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
Back when they were new one guy put a 428 SCJ in one with a cut down 9 inch and with a 4 gear it was a wild ride.



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ChadS

07-05-2005 07:15:59




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to the tractor vet, 07-04-2005 20:44:10  
I got a LPgas 429 I want to find a Torino or something to drop it in, its out of a old LP gas delivery truck. Dunno if that would fit! I remember one with a 351 in it years back at the strip, 4 gear, wheels off the ground past the 100 ft mark! Chad



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Leland

07-04-2005 18:27:34




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
I could be mistaken but a lot of the comet GT parts should fit under the front end and the came with a 302 good luck and post a picture of it when done.



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ChadS

07-05-2005 07:30:58




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to Leland, 07-04-2005 18:27:34  
There is just not alot of these cars around, that are on the roads in this area. Most junkyard cars like this have already been picked clean. Im thinking of making lower arms and adapt a Mustang strut of somesort if there is room. It did not have power steering from the factory, and thats ok, it did steer pretty good with out it. Chad



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Leland

07-05-2005 10:12:34




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-05-2005 07:30:58  
Whe I was a kid we had a comet GT with a 302 and they were about the same you could look at fords parts and see they still make a lot of hipor parts thru there catlog.



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jddriver

07-04-2005 13:51:53




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
I had a 75 with one in it did great also had one with an 200 six in it got 27mpg and did grerat in the snow.Steve



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Don L C

07-04-2005 17:33:05




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to jddriver, 07-04-2005 13:51:53  
It can be done the car came from the factory with either 6 or v8....the 6 had lighter springs and 4 lug spindles and wheels.....the v8 heaver springs and 5 lug.....



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ChadS

07-04-2005 13:41:57




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
Thanks guys for all the responce! I have had this car since 95, it was a florida car, has a 200 6 cyl in it. Its a very solid car body wise, yeah, the suspension needs to be redone, the front is pretty bad, but all bolt on parts, Im looking into swapping the drum brakes out, and using a disk set up. I like the look of the Maverick, if I look at it at the right angle, it looks like a miniature mach 1,, thought about making a custom rear spoiler, and side scoops, make it look more like a Mustang. Its not gonna be a everyday driver, just for a cruiser, and the occasional drag race. My cousin has a 66 Dodge Coronet 500 with a 440, the last mustang I had, walked all over that dodge, and since I had sold the mustang, That dodge kinda sits still these days. He said that he needs to have someone to race again. Inspiration for him to git that Dodge back out on the road and drive around the block,,, I was going to hop up my 88 T-bird,, but that is too new for me, I ve always had older faster cars. Besides, the T-bird wouldnt hold up VS a 440 Dodge,,, already tried,, Lol. I still have alot of parts left over from when I built the mustang, and I am thinking I can modify them enough to fit the Maverick. Is a AOD tranny mount differently than a C4, as far as mount spacing? Ill probably end up making a heavier mount, but Im looking ahead just a tad,,, Hope to have it done by fall, atleast the engine in, running, and can be moved around under its own power. Chad

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david stephenson

07-04-2005 14:58:14




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 13:41:57  
i due not see why you can put it in the mustang, i have put a 427 l88 with 4 speed in a 55chevy nomad an raced it on the west coast in washington state in the early 70s also put v8 in ford pickups that had six cyclinders in them before. you may have to make motor mounts and due some suspension work but you should be alright. that was the good old days now we are restoring1960 back farm tractors to keep them from being scrapped.

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ChadS

07-05-2005 07:25:25




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to david stephenson, 07-04-2005 14:58:14  
I bet that 427 would git right with it! Ive got 3 tall block 427's, Never did anything with em. Yeah, I went to tractors too, but I miss the racing. Ive got some ideas on the Maverick, 4.56 posi, with a AOD. I know the Mustang I had withthe same gears in it, with a 3 speed, was scary enough! Have you ever heard of Earl Gearte, from Rochester Indiana? he had some bad 55 chevy's, a freind of mine bought one and race it, was a small block car, now a big block, That thing is awesome. Chad

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John M

07-04-2005 12:22:18




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
I did it once,about 18 yrs ago.Sorry I dont remember what all I had to do to get it in right,but I know it ate front tires like crazy.



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CarMan963

07-04-2005 12:14:29




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
If I remember right, mustangs shared the front engine compartment pretty much and most things suach as motor mounts and ex. manifolds should interchange if you cant find a maverick donor car. I think they called the 2 door V8 cars "Grabbers". I would imagine finding websites dedicated to these would be an easy find. Good luck! One last word of advice, these cars had minimal brake systems, I always upgrade when a swap as such, many times spindles with bigger disc brake setups will bolt right on. Dont always follow the interchange manuals as they only show "Direct replacements".

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JoeMN

07-04-2005 20:31:00




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to CarMan963, 07-04-2005 12:14:29  
In 1974 I bought a new Maverick 302V8 and 3spd stick. Disc brakes on frt and it handled and stopped just fine. Acceleration was more than adequate;one could easily spin tires until car was enveloped in smoke. The drive train was sturdy but the body rusted badly.



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Hal/WA

07-04-2005 11:52:34




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
My daughter had a 76 Maverick with a factory 302 and C-4. It was a quick little car, but handled poorly and was the reason that I selected and bought cars for the other 4 younger kids as they got old enough to drive. The Maverick would go way too fast for a 16 year old, and I felt lucky that she made it through her time with that car unscathed.

The fit with the 302 is tight. Changing some of the spark plugs was a real pain and required removing the bracing that was bolted to the upper part of the engine compartment. The way the transmission cooler lines were run required unbolting them to be able to remove the oil filter. Changing the oil was a lot harder and slower than it needed to be.

I never could get that car to handle right. I had the front end carefully checked and aligned by the best shop in town, but that didn't seem to help very much. The car had custom wheels and non-standard tires--maybe they were the wrong offset or something. Anyway, the car wandered badly.

With the amount of power it had, it would spin the right rear tire very easily on dry pavement. It also had a problem with rear spring windup. Had I kept it, I would have tried to get a limited slip differential for it and would have installed slapper bars.

The Maverick was a miserable snow car, even with 300 lbs of weight in the trunk. It would get stuck easier than any other car we ever had. It also got poor gas mileage--no more than about 15, at best. It really kept my daughter broke, paying for her own gas.

So after about a year and a half with the Maverick and after a couple of bad close calls, we decided our oldest daughter needed a different car. We sold the Maverick to another teenager for about half what we paid for it, and bought our daughter a Mazda GLC, which worked great for her for 5 years.

I often thought I should have kept the Maverick, as it really would go and I thought it was fun, but would not have wanted another of my kids to drive it, even if I was able to fix the spooky handling.

I have read that a 351 Windsor looks like it should fit where a 302 has been, but it just increases the clearance problems around the valve covers, plugs and manifolds. But depending on how much you want to do, I suppose it could be done. The Maverick engine bay is fairly narrow, so I would stick with a 302. For exhaust manifolds, I would try to locate factory cast iron units from the Maverick or Comet. 64-66 Mustang or Falcon manifolds might work and may be reproduced. I would also check out the shorty tube headers from late model 5.0 Mustangs. Good luck, and I hope your Maverick handles better than ours did.....

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tlak

07-04-2005 11:31:45




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
Do a search, there are forums and how tos' on everything. I know there's a Maverick forum and I think photos of sticking a V8 in a 6 mustang.



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pperry

07-04-2005 11:03:16




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to ChadS, 07-04-2005 10:41:22  
i think you could get a V8 maverick from the factory. i have seen them before. i pulled a 302 out of a foor door maverick in the 80's. so it should fit.



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Jon Hagen

07-04-2005 11:23:46




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to pperry, 07-04-2005 11:03:16  
I scrapped a wercked 74 factory 302 Maverick. Not sure if the exhaust manifolds were anything special. One part,the power steering pump was a V8 Maverick/Comet part only because of the incredibly tight fit of a V8 in that engine bay. Service was all but impossible with a hot engine,and nearly as bad when it was cold. I ran a 70 with the Grabber package with a hopped up 300 truck engine. The fit was very little tighter than a stock 200-250 and with a Clifford 4 bbl intake,cam and headers,it was fast. It had torque more like 3/4 of a 400,rather than like an all rpm,no torque 302.

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

07-04-2005 13:43:15




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 Re: OT, V8 Maverick in reply to Jon Hagen, 07-04-2005 11:23:46  
I had one. Faster than greased lighting but it rusted faster. The body was a piece of Sh--t and it would amaze me if their was one left in the rust belt.



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