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Hauling a Ford 8000????

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kentuckydiesel

06-20-2005 20:32:27




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I'm considering buying a Ford 8000 but I need to consider how to get it home. I have a '95 F350 4x4 crew cab dually truck and I am looking at getting a 30' trailer to haul hay and this thing locally. I am just nervous about hauling a tractor which I figure to weigh about 10,000# through a couple different states. Why? Well, My truck weighs 8000-9000#, a trailer will weigh about 6000# I'd imagine, and the tractor at 10,000# or so. That's dang near 26,000lbs. Don't want to get up there just to find out I'm over. What do ya'll think? Will I slide by? I've hauled horse trailers that were 26,000lbs or over with my truck, but they are classified as RVs so no one bothers them.

Thanks, Phillip

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Leland

06-21-2005 12:34:32




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-20-2005 20:32:27  
Learn where all scales are and get off and take back roads around most of the time as long as you look good and load is secured they leave farmers alone or just stay on the 2 lane roads and just relax and take it easy around here a guy hauls a D-21 allis with a 3/4 ton and goose neck all the time and has no problems.



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Delbert from Lincoln

06-21-2005 08:33:49




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-20-2005 20:32:27  
This discussion just proves why sometimes the small tractors bring more money then the bigger ones. Easier to haul from place to place. Galen, I didn"t know DOT ever had any mercy on farmers. Last fall during harvest, the scale west of Nebr City was closed to make it weigh in motion. DOT fellers were bored, so they took portable scales around and set them up just outside of all the local grain elevators, and got all the farmers coming into the elevators. If they look hard enough they can usually find something to put a farmer out of service.

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Mark - IN.

06-21-2005 19:46:27




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 06-21-2005 08:33:49  
Ouch.

Mark



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Illinois Boy

06-21-2005 07:30:46




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-20-2005 20:32:27  
Galen - don"t say that too loudly - someone will say "hey, we can get more money in the state treasury if we just tax those old boys and make "em pay for haul"n that baler down the road to the next field. Frankly, I"m surprised that haven"t come up with an angle yet!!



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kentuckydiesel

06-21-2005 05:38:20




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-20-2005 20:32:27  
That's right, I am tagged for 38,000lbs on my F350 within 150mi. Problem is, tractor is about 450mi away. I don't want to be over 26,000lbs because not only do you need a CDL, but you need DOT Numbers, commercial insurance, your own authority, medical cards, etc, etc.

I know a lot of farmers haul tractors around with no peoblems, I just haven't hauled one this heavy, this far.



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john in la

06-21-2005 06:34:40




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-21-2005 05:38:20  
Rather than going threw the trouble of getting all the things you need to haul this tractor one time..... ....
CDL $75.00
Medical card $45.00
Fuel $180.00
Permit if it is over 102" wide
Your time
ect ect..... .....
Why not just pay someone to haul it for you.
If it is not over sized you should be able to get it hauled 450 miles for 6 or 7 hundred $.



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Galen

06-21-2005 06:36:20




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to john in la, 06-21-2005 06:34:40  
Sounds like the best plan to me!



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RustyFarmall

06-21-2005 04:19:37




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to kentuckydiesel, 06-20-2005 20:32:27  
Buy a trailer with the tandem axles with dual wheels. It will be rated at 20,000#. you will be just fine. By the way, The combined load will be over 26,001#, a CDL is now required.



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richlizzy

06-21-2005 16:41:55




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-21-2005 04:19:37  
Everybody had better wake up! If the trailer you are pulling has a gross vehicle weight of 10,001 lbs or more you need a CDL. Try driving through Illinois with a pickup and a trailer with a tractor and you may be pulled over by DOT and inspected on the spot. I have been stopped with my 1 ton dodge pulling a skid steer and the first thing the officer wanted to see was my CDL and medical card. I think I must have upset him because after 1 1/2 hours of inspections, he had to let me go. After I questioned him he then put CSV stickers on the truck and trailer.

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Galen

06-21-2005 05:05:10




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-21-2005 04:19:37  
Actually - the law has provisions for farmers hauling thier own equipment and materials within 150 miles of thier farm without a CDL. Other provisions also may apply.



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RustyFarmall

06-21-2005 14:49:36




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to Galen, 06-21-2005 05:05:10  
The 26,001# and over applies whether you are a farmer or a commercial trucker. If you are a farmer, the DOT officer may look the other way, but if he is having a slow day, look out, he will nail you.



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Galen

06-21-2005 15:15:04




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-21-2005 14:49:36  
There is an exemption for farmers hauling thier own equipment, even over 26,001#:

Commercial driver exemptions
Taxi drivers, ridesharing van drivers, firefighters, operators of rescue or first aid squad vehicles, farmers hauling their own products and equipment within 150 miles of their farms, non-civilian operators of military equipment and operators of construction equipment not designed for operation on public roads are exempt and need not apply for a commercial driver license. Operators of recreational vehicles are also exempt, provided the vehicle is being operated only for personal use.

Been there, done that! 8^)

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john in la

06-21-2005 17:05:55




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to Galen, 06-21-2005 15:15:04  
There is a exception to the CDL rule for farmers but you can not paint a wide brush with it. While I think this case fits in some ways lets look at it.

If you read the rule 383.3d you will see the exception is NOT for the farmer but rather for a driver of a farm vechical. This includes the farmer; employees; and family members.

This would not wash if the truck does not have Farm tags.

He would also be limited to 150 miles from his farm. This exception would only include the CDL. I think there is also a exception to DOT #'s for trucks with farm tags but do not quote me on that.

Any truck (farm or not) would still have to follow scale and DOT safety inspection rules.

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Galen

06-21-2005 17:48:23




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 Re: Hauling a Ford 8000???? in reply to john in la, 06-21-2005 17:05:55  
Thant's exactly what I was saying - there are exceptions to the law requirements. if you know which ones you need you can use them. Of course - it wouldn't apply to what he's doing anyway, so it's a mute point.



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