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Heating up over a chilly liner

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farmrgirl

06-20-2005 03:49:48




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MF 1100 D. Cylinder Sleeves are out!!! YEAH!!!! The heating plus pulling with the proper tool and a few choice words did the trick. Thanks to everyone who replied. NOW... trying to get the new ones back in... Tried the freezing technique and they are not just dropping right in (smile) Actually, they have no intention of making a home anywhere on this tractor. I have read on this forum that dry-ice may be necessary. Do you really think that if the fridge freeze didn"t work that dry ice might have a chance? Save all the spec questions please as all numbers match up. Thanks in advance.

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R. John Johnson

06-20-2005 10:05:20




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 Re: Heating up over a chilly liner in reply to farmrgirl, 06-20-2005 03:49:48  
My cousin told me a trick he used when rebuilding a 1135 last winter. He partially re-assembled engine enough to fill the block with water and plugged the block heater in overnight. He put the sleeves outside overnight (Manitoba winter, overnight temps below -20 F.). Dissasambled the block and the sleeves dropped right in.

Hope this helps

John



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Drill

06-20-2005 07:00:55




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 Re: Heating up over a chilly liner in reply to farmrgirl, 06-20-2005 03:49:48  
When I did my 1100 I used a cylinder hone to clean up the holes in the block before I put the liners in. Left the liners in deep freeze overnight, and the liners just dropped right in. Make sure everything is clean and dry. Warm the block up slightly if needed.



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Dell (WA)

06-20-2005 06:08:50




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 Re: Heating up over a chilly liner in reply to farmrgirl, 06-20-2005 03:49:48  
Farmergirl..... .....yep, -100F dry-ice chips (yellow pages) really works. $10 (cheap)

I recommend making a "spool" outta 2-round pieces of jig-sawed wood that fit inside yer cylinder sleeve and 12" of 1/2" ready-thready rodd and 4-nuts. Stuff the cavity formed by the sleeve and the spool with dry-ice chips. By having the COLD inside the sleeve, the block doesn't gitta chance to expand the sleeve until your sleeve is "home" in the engine block where you want it. Then just "un-thread" the wood end and capture yer dry-ice chips for your next sleeve. Simple, eh?

Oh yeah, wear gloves..... ....Dell, the frost-bitt

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Jerry L /AZ

06-20-2005 05:54:44




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 Re: Heating up over a chilly liner in reply to farmrgirl, 06-20-2005 03:49:48  
Farmer girl Hi , I think you are getting in a hurry. secret is let them stay in the deep freeze, they have to be in there for a while long enough time to let the metal contract keep them cold as soon as you take them out they start to expand I would leave them in the freezer at least a day and then pack with dry ice all around place the cooler next to your work area and real quickly go from the cooler to the engine Ca-plunk Also I would check the bore before trying to install the sleeves, repeated heating and cooling could cause the bore to shrink or become out of round you can use an inside caliper or bore gage to do this make sure that it (bore ) is straight and not tapered. just my thoughts wish you the best of luck Jer

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lucasss

06-21-2005 06:55:47




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 Re: Heating up over a chilly liner in reply to Jerry L /AZ , 06-20-2005 05:54:44  
i use a sleeve installer thats basically a long bolt and plate to pull em in , or just put the block in the press and press em in , i tried the freeze method and the bolck gets cold as soon as the sleeves in some or the sleeve warms up. not to say it doesnt work in some cases depending on the interference fit.lucas



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