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still need help. still have pictures. I know a bit

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Joe Bloggs

05-30-2005 19:27:16




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I am trying to set up the hydraulic hoses on my IH 454. I am conecting them to the auxillary control valve. this tractor only has 1. it was set up for a single action cylinder but now I need to have 2 hoses to run a double action cylinder. I put red letters on the hoses so here goes. A i think is the return line but my book says it should be the up preure line.B has a quick disconect fitting. my book says this should be the down presure line and c is the main supplu. so my question is.. if I take out "A" and put my new hose in there what do I do with that hose. have a look at the second picture it shows where the hoses come out of the side of the transmission.


on my tractor there is hoses coming out of the part my book calls "cover,side pto".
in my books (I have 3 different publications all on this 1 tractor) it has nothing about hoses on the cover plate.
I did find reference in the book to an auxillary pump when removing this plate if installed.
so i think I must have an auxillary pump inside there.

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Hugh MacKay

05-31-2005 04:16:52




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 Re: still need help. still have pictures. I know a in reply to Joe Bloggs, 05-30-2005 19:27:16  
Joe: I can't be 100% sure on this, but here goes with an opinion. Am I correct in assuming hose on A returns to transmission? If so that hose was only ever put in place to pickup or discharge oil so port B could be used for single action hydraulics. Are there any other ports on the valve with just a plug in them? I am not very familiar with the utility type tractors, most of my experience was with Farmalls.

Every auxilary valve must have 4 ports for double action and 3 for single action. Most valves of that era were all equiped for double action. Those 4 ports being supply, discharge back to resovoir and two ports for double action cylinder. On the Farmalls of that era all you needed do for single action was plug into the lift side, with cylinder and when you wanted to lower implement you moved lever to float position. It looks to me as though someone has put quick coupler for single action on lowering side of valve on your tractor, thus he could not use float position for lowering a single action cylinder. To make this work, he then had to plumb port A back to transmission so it could pickup or discharge oil as needed.

If my opinion is correct there is only one thing I don't see, that being a return line to transmission or resovoir. Could it be in base of valve where it bolts to tractor.

Why not try plumbing the double action cylinder into ports A and B. While you do this just place that hose currently hooked to port A, so it can't discharge oil particularly all over you. Start the tractor long enough to see if valve lever will extend and retract cylinder, That is providing you don't get an oil discharge from that disconnected hose from A. Take notice if tractor labors as if under load. Then come back to me, let me know your findings. My thoughts are you can eliminate that hose from port A to transmission.

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