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Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model?

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Hurst

05-24-2005 14:19:15




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How much can this model truck tow safely with a standard bumper hitch with a bumper pull trailer? I was thinking about towing an allis chlamers 7000 with it, but wasn't sure if the truck's frame could handle pulling that weight, even if the weight is not on the tounge too much. This truck has been rear-ended and had to have to frame heated and straightened about 2 or 3 degrees in the bend. Will towing something this heavy possible mess up the frame again? Is there anywhere that is in central Ky to rent trucks with gooseneck balls in the beds, I can probably borrow a gooseneck if I can find a truck to pull it with. By the way, the f150 doesn't have a ball in the bed, just a bumper hitch with the towing package. Thanks

Hurst

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DavidA

05-25-2005 09:49:28




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
I have got a 2 wheel drive version of this truck, 5.4L V8, auto trans and a factory towing package. The manual says it can tow either 8000 or 8600 lbs, I cannot remember which. I just don't know how well it can control this load or how well it can stop it even with trailer brakes.

I have a 97 F-350 with a 460 and a 5 speed to tow with. The F-150 is what I drive to work every day. I have a 7 ton pintel hitch trailer. This with my tractor weights over 10,000 lbs. I would not think of hooking this to my F-150 even using trailer brakes.

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Joe(TX)

05-25-2005 06:03:24




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Thats too much weight for a F150, especially a bumper type. An F150 does not have the springs, brakes, tires or axle for it. Thats a sizable load for an F250 with a gooseneck setup.



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Leland

05-24-2005 19:39:26




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Just rent a 1 ton uhaul you can get one for 29 or 39.00 per day local and so much a mile but don't tell them what you plan too do with it. and wear out there equipment for the money it's worth it.



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Carl NY

05-24-2005 19:24:10




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Find a commercial transporter and save yourself alot of headaches. That 7000 AC on a trailer behind a F150 is like a huge sign for law enforcement to start writing you up a fist full of tickets and that total will be more than paying some frieght charges.



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Hurst

05-24-2005 19:29:54




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Carl NY, 05-24-2005 19:24:10  
What about renting from a place like Hertz Commercial rental and renting a truck and trailer from them or a flat bed. There is another rental company that is about 30 minute away that has several rollback tow trucks, will those work? Thanks

Hurst



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Stewart

05-24-2005 17:04:22




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Just for point of reference,heating and straightening a frame on a new Ford is a definite no-no. Any frame damage on a newer Ford pickup requires replacement of the frame,due to the high tensile steel they use.They cannot be pulled or straighened,especially by heating.That is Ford and Insurance Institute standards.



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Hurst

05-24-2005 17:13:48




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Stewart, 05-24-2005 17:04:22  
Well, I guess our insurance company jipped my Dad. I looked it up when it happened and told him the same thing, but he wouldn't listen. He said if the frame was shot, then the truck would be totaled. I tried to tell him that the insurance company would rather replace the frame than total a $35,000 2003 truck with less than 25000 miles. They sent it into the local body shop to staighten the frame. When we got it back, I took my hand and ran it along the frame where it had bent and sure enought the metal had been stretched, so when it was straightened there was a nice hump that was about 3/8 of an inch tall/recessed (one side went up and the other made a valley in the frame). Told him then that the frame was not supposed to be used it if was kinked, but we still use it and he told me that once they are straightened that they don't bend again from a load on the rear??? Thanks for your information. By the way, this is the older style, nonboxed frame. 2003 was the last year they used this frame before they switched to the frame that they use up until today. Thanks

Hurst

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Pete in Cal

05-24-2005 16:36:56




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
The tractor and trailer weight will probably exceed the gross tow limits of your truck. Something else to consider is how you are going to stop the rig without jack-knifing it, in a panic situation. I would look for commercial hauler with insurance. My opinion, Pete



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RustyFarmall

05-24-2005 16:21:37




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Check your owners manual, the info you need is in it.



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Don L C

05-24-2005 15:25:45




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
The Ford f-150 can be setup to pull a lot of weight....depends on the size an condition of the engine.....the rearend raito should be 3:73 or larger..... .good heavy shocks....I towed a travel trailer with a 3:73and 460 cu engine with headers /dual exhaest.....holly 750 cfm double pumper with manual secondaries.....As long as I used my head I had no problems.....Get your truck and trailer in great shape first....I used a 850 pound Reese hitch with Reese "cam" sway control...Don

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Hurst

05-24-2005 15:52:34




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Don L C, 05-24-2005 15:25:45  
This wouldn't be a weight distributing hitch, just a regulare reciever hitch. The truck has the 3.73 rear end, 4wd, towing package, the FX4 off road package, but it also has had frame repair in the rear part of the frame right behind the axle and where the hitch bolts on. It has the 5.4 L tirton V8 engine (2-valve) fuel injected. It has the 17 inch tires. It has the factory reciever hitch. Has been used to pull a bobcat 763 with it pulled all the way to the front of the trailer. This trip would be 220 miles, so it sounds like I will need to find a 3/4 ton truck and gooseneck to borrow from my Dad's cousin. That is a dodge 2500 with a v10. Any input on whether it would be a better deal to get someone ship it professionally? Do any of the big renting companies like National or Hertz rent out pickup trucks and flatbed trailers for this type of application?

Thanks.

Hurst

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Dr.EVIL

05-25-2005 13:37:54




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 15:52:34  
7000 Allis is WAY over twice as much weight as You should haul/pull. Look in the Yellow pages for "Trucking Companies" and find someplace that runs flatbed freight in Your area and arrange to have them haul it. Don't be in a hurry for it and be Flexible and You'll get a better price per mile.



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thurlow

05-24-2005 15:13:32




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
If you have a factory bumper (the thing that was on there when it came off the dealer's lot), I wouldn't pull anything heavier than a lawn-mower. I've seen 'em folded in the middle with only a few hundred lbs of tongue weight. Lots of folks swear by receiver hitches and I'm not knocking 'em, but I've always relied on HEAVY-DUTY aftermarket bumpers. I'm not a big fan of pulling over a few (very few) thousand lbs with a half-ton truck; if you compare the bearings in the rear-end (and how they're made) with a three quarter or one ton, you'll see what I mean. Personally, I wouldn't pull a 7000 AC behind a half-ton pickup, on any kind of trailer. Others have safely pulled that size tractor and will disagree. My opinion only and we all have one (or more). I'm unanimous in this. (With apologies to Mrs. Slocum)

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Gerald J.

05-24-2005 14:57:37




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Hurst, 05-24-2005 14:19:15  
Probably limited to about 5000 pounds. My 1998 F-150 bumper is limited to that and with manual transmission it would only pull some 2600 pounds. I changed the axle and now the biggest load I've had was 6000 pounds. But I wouldn't take on a 10000 pound tractor.

Gerald J.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

05-24-2005 17:46:56




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 Re: Towing with an f150 supercrew 2003 model? in reply to Gerald J., 05-24-2005 14:57:37  
Rental places will rent a large truck and trailer.



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