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bhb

05-23-2005 18:54:59




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Today we were returning from L.A. to Ohio, we had to change planes in Pheonix. As we were approaching the Pheonix Airport we flew over what appeared to be hundreds (maybe thousand) acres of crops that were a lush dark green color and wondered what they are and do they irrigate them?

Thank you, Bill




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Bobl1958

05-24-2005 06:34:53




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
What you were probably seeing was mostly Alfalfa. There is a lot of Alfalfa growing around Phoenix area to provide for the dairies and horse people. It takes a lot of milk to keep that many people happy. A little farther away from Phoenix the cotton starts. It would also be green at this time. Az was the 3rd largest cotton growing state at one time, behind Tx, and then Ms. Also, there is about 60,000 acres of Durham wheat. Some of the highest quality there is. Most is sold to Italy for their pasta.

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ShepFL

05-24-2005 05:25:59




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
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When I was out there in 1998 all I seen was cotton. I was really surprised to see that, learned later that the boom started during WWI.

The folks I spoke with said the cotton grows well in the very dry, hot climate of AZ. They also indicated the cotton is very susceptible to many pests like aphids, boll weevils, cutworms, bollworms etc.

The irrigation method I seen was controlled flooding. They have all these concrete canals that run thru the fields. They release the water fill the canals and then using flexible piping the water is routed to specific areas of the field for controlled flooding (inches not feet).

I was told this is used in place of typical overhead irrigation as to much water is lost due to evaporation and potential plant damage from scalding.

FWIW,
ShepFL

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Allan in NE

05-24-2005 06:00:49




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to ShepFL, 05-24-2005 05:25:59  
Mornin' Shep,

Wow! Am I ever glad I'm past that chore! Grew up packin' those tubes and mud soaked canvas dams; not to mention every one of those head rows have to be dug out by hand with an old fashioned spade. Whew! What a bunch of work!

Actually, the center pivots increase the efficiency by about 20% by lowering evaporation losses. That's why the government is pushing them so hard now with their programs.

Last year, because it was so darned dry out here, the flood irrigation bill down on the flats figured in at over $2K for .2 acre foot of water. Pumping costs on the same exact land came in at just over $900 and of course, provided well over an acre-foot. That's not counting the depreciation cost of that system tho.

Allan

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Allan in NE

05-23-2005 22:47:01




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
Hi Bill,

They grow a lot of lettuce, cabbage and onions down there.

They say after they snap those heads they are in the resturants of New York and on the tables within 24 hours.

They can also run 3 crops a year around the calendar. Drive thru AZ in the middle of January and it smells like sour kraut.

Allan



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Gerald J.

05-23-2005 20:20:26




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
Last time I was in that territory, there was a grid of irrigation ditches running very cold water (from nearby mountain streams I guess) through the fields so they could pump from the ditches to the fields. That was about 50 years ago.

Gerald J.



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dillbert

05-23-2005 19:54:22




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 Re: OT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
Alfalfa? Or as one of the kids used to say--foulfalfa



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Coloken

05-23-2005 19:29:57




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 Re: Okpierce@frii.comT ? on crops in reply to bhb, 05-23-2005 18:54:59  
Do they have orange colored balls hanging on them?



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Harley

05-24-2005 06:27:43




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 Re: Okpierce@frii.comT ? on crops in reply to Coloken, 05-23-2005 19:29:57  
Ken, you're thinking of Bobo the Clown. :-) Harley



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UncleTom

05-23-2005 20:30:29




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 Re: Okpierce@frii.comT ? on crops in reply to Coloken, 05-23-2005 19:29:57  
It could be corn. My brother lives there and he said that they will plant corn and with irrgation and the heat the corn will grow so fast that they can plant the second crop of something else after the corn.



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